Regarding criminals and NFA weapons

[igpoobah]

I have heard a great number of arguments on this board recommending that current NFA weapons be returned to public consumption. I have always tended to agree with this. However, a thought crossed my mind a couple days ago and I have been mulling over a few things since. I would like to get some thoughts on the matter.

We all know criminals prefer "throw-away" guns. Cheap and dirty, because they will not be holding on to them anyways. As of now, the amount of NFA type weapons ( & semi-clones ) used in regular street crime is just about NIL because of this factor. Criminals would rather spend a couple hundred or less on a standard pistol than a $1,000+ EBR if they are just going to throw it in the river when they are done anyways.

What do you suppose would happen if tomorrow you could go pick up that FA MAC 10 for a couple hundred bucks because it was now available to anyone? These weapons would once again become the choice of criminals is my theory. And why not? They would also be our choice! Stands to reason...

So does it still seem like a good idea to drop all NFA regs?

I would, however, argue for bringing back FA weapons to the public with the tax and all like it used to be (pre-86 I believe). Even though I feel it is still unconstitutional, we would still have access to such firearms.

I think it's a good idea to keep the criminals packing the Jennings and we have the 'good' stuff.

It still just seems like a bad idea to just strip away all gun laws and let everyone go all willy-nilly. My contention is that without laws and civil structure, people are basically...animals; and will act as such. I believe in limited government, which means there does still need to be some government.

I dunno, feel like I'm rambling now. I guess I would just like to hear some different arguments on this subject from hopefully many different viewpoints.

 

[glockman19]

Repeal & Tax...It's the American way.

 

[B. Adams]

I don't think too many people are advocating that the NFA should be eliminated, just that the '86 machine gun ban should be revoked. I wouldn't mind spending an extra $200 on registration for a machine gun, and I don't mind doing it for an SBR or SBS either. People got along fine for 52 years with the NFA in place, it's the fact that you can't buy a machine gun less than 20 years old that bothers most people.

Well, that and the fact that it costs $200 to register a 1/2lb cylinder of steel to protect your hearing. I don't mind the registration, but the price for that is a little steep. Why can't suppressors be "taxed" like AOW's?

Even the CGA doesn't bother too many people. I don't disagree with the current policy of transferring mail-order guns through a dealer, and most of the other restrictions also seem "reasonable." It's that damn machine gun ban that pisses me off, because I can't afford to spend that much money on a 20+ year old gun, no matter how much I want to.

I would really like to see the '86 machine gun ban lifted, and I don't think too many here would disagree with that (even the people that own some of those $20,000 machine guns).

 

[Feanaro]

These weapons would once again become the choice of criminals

I don't think they ever were the weapon of choice but I wish they were. People who shoot up schools with AKs and MAC-10s tend to miss. A lot. The North Hollywood robbery was intense but the only people who died were the suspects.

I don't think too many people are advocating that the NFA should be eliminated

You just haven't been paying close enough attention.

 

[GhostlyKarliion]

Eliminate the NFA and the BATFE completely, effective immediately.

Along with every other gun law on the books, the only reference to firearms in American law should be the 2nd amendment, no US codes, no slip laws, no court rulings, only unrestricted freedom... period.

It is wrong to restrict something just because some idiot misuses it.

*getto gangstar thug car rolls down the street with one window open, machine gun stick out and starts blastin...

Thirty-seven friggin homeowners start firing back from every direction makin a swiss cheese caddywack

Gang rate plummets*

Ok, it wouldn't happen that way, but instead of taking effective means of misuse out of criminals hands, lets make laws that make friggin parents discipline their friggin children and we wouldn't have nearly as bad a problem as we do now.

For the occasional depraved moron suffering from acute lead deficiency, the populous at arms could remedy that quickly and efficiently.