reloading primers - too sketchy?

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  1. WeekendReloader

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    I don't know for sure, but it makes sense that they would run those stud driver loads on the same line as regular 22's using the same primer compound. They are basically a 22 short.
     
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    Interesting post's.
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  3. hossfly

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    I saw a youtube video where a fellow combined the compound from those stud drivers with a couple of caps from cap guns and claims success with his recharged primers. There are a lot of people piddling with these solutions. I bought a bag of prime all myself with the intention of piddling but never got the chance.
     
  4. jmorris

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    You would have to dissolve it back into a paste somehow. If you disturbed it otherwise it’s just an unusable dust.

    Did remind me of using air gun pellets pushed by them. #4’s melted the pellets but the 2&3’s gave impressive velocity’s.

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  5. missystockholm

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    My thoughts exactly. I know some compounds become less explosive while in a liquid or paste state, and I do not know enough about chemistry myself to start piddling around without knowing exactly what I am dealing with. I did find this data sheet however!

    https://www.ramset.com/Portals/0/pdf/MSDS/SDS-Powder Loads-2015.pdf
     
  6. watermonger

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    I actually have a bag of the 22lr reloading compound, I haven't yet figured out the best way to reset the primer cups back to their unfired state yet, anyone got any ideas?
     
  7. Mark_Mark

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    C4 makes a good primer compound!

    just kidding! C4 is way too sticky
     
  8. 11MikeMike

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    I can imagine it now - First it was the toilet paper, then the primers, and next there won’t be a box of match sticks to be had! :D
     
  9. Wolfmanjack

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    BA776180-3FBB-4AB0-9615-6FC359ECB617.png If the picture comes out you can see the amount of flame produced from the H-42 compound. I loaded 10 primers last night. I’ll have to see if the sealant I used messed up the compound. Waiting on it to dry, will report back!
     
  10. mikey98e

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    My cousin reloaded primers. He said he first took the anvils out of spent primers. He used a punch to flatten out the firing pin dent. Then he put ground up matches in the primer and replaced the anvil.
    -mike
     
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  11. Hartkopf

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    Could be tricky grinding up matches. Get in a hurry and it blows up in your face!:D
     
  12. Wolfmanjack

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    So I had 7 out of ten of the primers go off. Not bad for the first run I think. The ones that went off were quite powerful and I have no doubt would set off smokeless powder. I suspect the sealant was the problem with the 3 primers that didn’t go off. I used straight up shellac out of can. I will try diluted shellac or hairspray next.
     
  13. missystockholm

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    Thank you for testing this! I have been distinctly told I am *not* allowed to spearhead any trial runs by the boyfriend... Something about having to haul me to the ER a few months ago with molten lead in my eye has made him less inclined to my shenanigans. :oops:
     
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    I bought some caps at one of our local GS the last time I was there. Have not messed with it yet. Was thinking of trying them out in a little home made cannon first but too many other things to do and found some spp the other day so not in a hurry to blow myself up just yet. But I have them if I need them.
     
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  16. Analogkid

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    I have used green strike anywhere match tip ground up with a bit ground glass into the mix. I use a pair of flat duck billed pliers to crush the match tip compound off. I kinda perfected the process several years back in the last primer and ammo shortage.. I use a hardwood rolling pin to grind up the match head compound. That goes pretty quick. The I mix the compound and some ground glass together in a paper fold... The ground glass was easy to make with a mortar and pestle I got years ago ..Basically what I saw folks on youtube do. I have only reloaded large pistol primers this way. Federal primers are easier i feel to reload and reprime. I remove the anvil with a dental pic then throw the empty cups into my ultrasonic with just hot water. After a few minutes they are clean as can be. I don't do anything to the anvils.. I dry them in my coating oven at 250 deg for a few minutes and then use a punch to take out the firing pin dent. I then just use a lee dipper to fill them up with the matchstick compound and use a match stick end to tamp them down pretty firmly. I put a drop of acetone mixed with shellac 10:1 into each one and then let them dry. The put the anvil on top and set a hemp rolling paper over the works and finger seat the primer into the case by pushing on the top of the case to start it. I donno if the paper is needed but I do it anyway.. I have tried cheap 1 ply toilet tissue and it works the same as well. It absolutely has to be the super cheap stuff or Hemp rolling papers.


    I don't cut the paper into a disc. I just let the primer seating into the case cut it. Then just use a little c clamp to seat it.. If it is proud a bit I just finish seating it with the hand primer tool. It all seems like a lot of work but I only shoot about 50 45acp ,44 mag or 10mm a week and it really isn't a big deal. Once it is down to components... It goes at a steady pace.. Just another aspect to reloading in trying times. If you spread out the work they go together quickly enough. They all fire 100% and I use my same powder charges as I have ever done with factory powder's. I know folks have made the process easier with the 22 reloader priming compound and I'll try that next since I have 2 packages of it stashed somewhere. I hoarded Small pistol mag primers So I doubt I will ever reload those.. I hoarded large pistol primers as well... But large primers are easy enough to work with small needle nose pliers.. So why not, they are just getting thrown away anyway? Guns get a good cleaning when I get home as I am sure the primer mix is corrosive. No different than my sks's and ak's I feed with my stockpile of corrosive Chicom x39 . I still have a family life and work 10 hours day's So I only do enough to have fun plinking at the range with the big bore's
     
  17. Mark_Mark

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    WOW you guys are really seriously making primers?!?!!!?!?!?!?

    when primer get back to normal, I’m buying 100k so I will never have to contemplate on making primers
     
  18. Analogkid

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    Shoot I made 200 before breakfast today while some b grade zombie flick played in the background... Then spent half the day at a trampoline place with my 8 year old..... I'll shoot em all tomorrow in my Lever guns! None of this really bothers me. It is what it is. I have 5 k lpp's horded and I havent had to touch one of them since this crap sent everything into a tizzy. Not a productive use of my time but neither was the Hallmark shows I had to watch over the holidays with the wife.
     
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    That’s the spirit (me too) and that’s why we’ll never get back to normal. It’s the post-panic panic.
     
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    I like the bare ankle test gauge to see how far the flame and heat travel. I think myth busters used that one too.
     
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    Yes, take some new primers, soak them in Kroll until the compound softens and can be safely removed, then fill them with your homemade compound.
     
  23. Mark_Mark

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    more like 9 million new gun owners paying $40 for 50 rounds of anything. Then resellers hitting the panic-panic lotto. To each his own
     
  24. CQB45ACP

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    I really don’t care about the cost and who’s making what profit. I care about ready availability and going to the range.

    Before I began reloading in September 2019, I was paying $.30/rd for Winchester/Remington/Magtech 45ACP at the gun show (and Walmart was close to that). And I could buy as much as I wanted whenever I wanted. I shot about 300 rds/week back then—$90/wk.

    Today, IF I could find a brand name it would cost at least $1.00/rd before shipping. That would be at least $300/wk. I’d still pay it gladly.

    I guess there is a threshold I wouldn’t cross but I don’t know what it is cause I want to shoot. And there are many others like me or the gunbroker and other prices wouldn’t be where they are.

    Thankfully I reload now and have plenty of components to scratch my itch.

    Yes, to each his own.
    Sorry for the rambling.
     
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  25. Brad Cobb

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    Thread on reloading primers (at a different forum) was promptly shut down by moderator.

    Glad to see they're making more progress on the high road :)

    http://www.aardvarkreloading.com/resources/Homemade Primer Course 2019-06-28.pdf will get you to the homemade primer course as mentioned earlier.

    Materials necessary for above primer course can be purchased partly at hardware stores, and through places like skylighter.com and other pyrotechnic supplies.

    Doing so, however, may not be legal in your jurisdiction; you're responsible for your own actions and checking your local laws, as your mileage may vary.

    Where one could receive a medal for good citizenship in some places for some actions, such in others (think: blue liberal states) can be a crime.

    As noted, compounds in homemade primer course are corrosive, and after using, it's necessary to wash out firearm with hot water to ensure removing corrosive compounds.

    Manufacturers state they're producing primers, and while possible to reload primers, I would much prefer purchasing non-corrosive primers when they become available.

    "Wikiarms.com ammo search" for reloading can be setup to notify when primers are back in stock.

    In the meanwhile, there is a workaround for the "ammo-less" getting enough daily practice improving one's proficiency:

    https://dryfiretrainingcards.com/blog/no-time-to-practice-heres-4-1-minute-dry-fire-drills-you-can-do-in-your-car-or-on-a-plane/

    You can get all the dry fire exercises that you might possibly ever desire over at Chris's website for free:

    ChrisSajnog.com. Retired Navy SEAL/shooting instructor who knows what he is about.
     
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