Reloading supplies???

[Mark_Mark]

Good for them! Nice to see the gougers getting cut off.

I don’t agree with banning capitalism, every man has a right to do what he wants with his property. After you sell the primers to someone it’s no longer your property or business.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

i can’t pull a bow anymore. I get what you mean. I have sworn off buying new guns in calibers that I don’t have ammo/supplies for. What’s the point in buying a new gun if you can’t get ammo or reloading supplies at reasonable and reliable prices. I have traded a few guns in my favorite flavors, but that’s another story.

I just sold all of my Trapdoor Springfield rifles (a 1973 H&R Centennial Officer's Model commemorative and a Pedersoli standard infantry rifle) so I could devote the last of my .45-70 reloading to the Marlin '95. When I run out of supplies and ammo, I'll sell that rifle, too. I'm at the point where, if I run out of supplies for a cartridge and it's not looking like it can be restocked economically, or in what I want vs. what I can get vs. what "the market" decides to sell, then I'm going to eliminate those guns from my collection, too. Eventually, I will be left with one 1911A1, one M1 Garand, one M1 Carbine, one 12ga. Police surplus riot gun, and one .30-06Spg rifle, plus whatever my wife decides will be her last guns. The rest will go away.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

I don’t agree with banning capitalism, every man has a right to do what he wants with his property. After you sell the primers to someone it’s no longer your property or business.

And the owners of the business have the same right to refuse service to anyone they think may be breaking the law. Mailing primers without the proper licensing and transportation is against the law. The owners of those shops may be held liable or charged as accomplices after-the-fact if they knowingly supply illegal operations.

 

[AK Hunter]

Primers are starting to come back but now the powder has at least doubled in price or higher & good reloading bullets are impossible to find. (other than lead bullets)
Natchez has small rifle primers right now.
https://www.natchezss.com/cci-standard-primers-400-small-rifle.html

 

[Airborne Falcon]

I just sold all of my Trapdoor Springfield rifles (a 1973 H&R Centennial Officer's Model commemorative and a Pedersoli standard infantry rifle) so I could devote the last of my .45-70 reloading to the Marlin '95. When I run out of supplies and ammo, I'll sell that rifle, too. I'm at the point where, if I run out of supplies for a cartridge and it's not looking like it can be restocked economically, or in what I want vs. what I can get vs. what "the market" decides to sell, then I'm going to eliminate those guns from my collection, too. Eventually, I will be left with one 1911A1, one M1 Garand, one M1 Carbine, one 12ga. Police surplus riot gun, and one .30-06Spg rifle, plus whatever my wife decides will be her last guns. The rest will go away.

So, what you're basically saying is ... you come into this world in the fetal position and most of us leave this world in the fetal position. Those five are what most of us started-out-with ... the five foundational firearms. Maybe a revolver instead of the 1911 ... but basically that's the five. The Garand and a good bolty like a Savage 110 in 30.06 ... great 30.06 combo and you can cut-down worn-out 30.06 brass to feed to the 1911 in a pinch. (Provided the primer pockets are not too wallered-out.)

I'm leaving all of my guns to family and a couple of life-long buddies, if they're still alive when I croke. My wife buys her own guns. She never liked the ones I bought for her so I gave-up on that awhile back ... God Bless her independent thinking.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

So, what you're basically saying is ... you come into this world in the fetal position and most of us leave this world in the fetal position. Those five are what most of us started-out-with ... the five foundational firearms. Maybe a revolver instead of the 1911 ... but basically that's the five. The Garand and a good bolty like a Savage 110 in 30.06 ... great 30.06 combo and you can cut-down worn-out 30.06 brass to feed to the 1911 in a pinch. (Provided the primer pockets are not too wallered-out.)

I'm leaving all of my guns to family and a couple of life-long buddies, if they're still alive when I croke. My wife buys her own guns. She never liked the ones I bought for her so I gave-up on that awhile back ... God Bless her independent thinking.

We come into this world naked and fighting for breath. We leave the same way.
My wife has always picked out her own guns but we discuss the purchase, regardless of who it's for. She gets just as much say on my purchases as I do on hers. She bought a plastic, striker-fired, wundergun long before I did - a decade plus some more - and I gritted my teeth and uttered that one phrase every married man must learn to say in all sincerity, "Yes, dear." She's a much better shot than I am, too.

 

[JEBruns]

I don’t agree with banning capitalism, every man has a right to do what he wants with his property. After you sell the primers to someone it’s no longer your property or business.

I hear you. And I believe in capitalism. But I also believe an LGS that is trying to do the right thing and see's someone taking advantage has the right to refuse them product. Let the gouger find another source. That's not the same thing as banning capitalism.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Primers are starting to come back but now the powder has at least doubled in price or higher & good reloading bullets are impossible to find

Gas, food, electric and every other modern "essential" is going up in price. Hobby supplies of every sort will increase at a higher rate because they occupy smaller markets with less public oversight. In some cases, they are more highly regulated than "essentials" and that also raises costs, but it is the public oversight which forces some businesses to operate at temporary losses; electric co-ops, for example.

For the record, I will take higher costs on available product over lower costs on out-of-stock product. The stark reality is, we live in a world of scarce resources. There are only two ways to determine the distribution of those resources: rationing by mandate and or rationing by price (ref: Thomas Sowell, Basic Economics, 5th Ed., 2015). If a product is not available at any price, it doesn't matter how cheap it is.

Costs will come down when (if?) the metals, transportation, warehousing, and labor markets recover and those market economies are able to operate at lower costs. Not before.

 

[Mark_Mark]

And the owners of the business have the same right to refuse service to anyone they think may be breaking the law. Mailing primers without the proper licensing and transportation is against the law. The owners of those shops may be held liable or charged as accomplices after-the-fact if they knowingly supply illegal operations.

Then it comes down to registering the primers to keep track on were it’s going!?!?? The shop is not responsible for someone’s action. Keep chipping away at freedom and there won’t be none left.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Then it comes down to registering the primers to keep track on were it’s going!?!??

No. Why would it? That would be like insisting the only way to track toilet paper is through a government registry. That would be stupid.

The shop is not responsible for someone’s action.

False. Any business which KNOWINGLY supports an illegal activity is an accomplice in that activity. I'm not a lawyer but there are some good lawyers on this forum. Ask one of them if a business can be held legally liable and possibly charged criminally for knowingly selling legal goods to black market, illegal operator. I could be wrong but I strongly suspect the answer is, "Yes, they can."

Keep chipping away at freedom and there won’t be none left.

You're chipping away at the retailer's freedom to choose their clientele. Hold up a mirror Marky and look hard at the real culprit in the anti-freedom march. You want to force retailers to sell to people they don't want to do business with, and who they know are breaking the law by reselling explosives across state lines without any credentials, without collecting sales taxes, using resale sites hosted in the public internet, and shipping them unmarked by common carrier.

 

[Walkalong]

Getting a little too political