Reloading the AR15 left handed

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Thought I would share my thoughts on how to reload an AR15 left handed.

Bring the right hand back to the mag release, rip out the mag, grab fresh one, insert, and either hit the B.A.D lever (or similar device) OR reach around the front of the mag well and hit the paddle release with your right hand.

Lefties, how do you reload?

1 minute demo video:
 
"...how do you reload?..." Same way but using the left hand. Handedness makes no difference of any kind.
Anyway, AR's, like FAL's, are operated with the left hand. Safety and mag release are on the left.
 
"...how do you reload?..." Same way but using the left hand. Handedness makes no difference of any kind.
Anyway, AR's, like FAL's, are operated with the left hand. Safety and mag release are on the left.
So you use a left handed lower?

My mag release is on the right.

I have never run an FAL but if I recall the mag release is centered behind the mag (in front of the trigger guard)?
 
I think Sunray must have meant safety and bolt release. The safety location is meant to be operated by the right thumb, especially when going from safe to fire.
 
I strip the mag with my right thumb/hand like you but I don't use a BAD lever; I press the bolt release (if the bolt is locked back) with my (left) trigger finger. If your hands won't reach that won't work. If the bolt is forward or for clearing malfunctions I cant the rifle to the right and run the charging handle with my right hand. I also swipe the safety off and on with the side of my left index finger.

I searched for a video example and as it happens Larry Vickers runs his the same way I do. Including the use of the trigger finger on the safety.

 
I strip the mag with my right thumb/hand like you but I don't use a BAD lever; I press the bolt release (if the bolt is locked back) with my (left) trigger finger. If your hands won't reach that won't work. If the bolt is forward or for clearing malfunctions I cant the rifle to the right and run the charging handle with my right hand. I also swipe the safety off and on with the side of my left index finger.

I searched for a video example and as it happens Larry Vickers runs his the same way I do. Including the use of the trigger finger on the safety.


Interesting. Thanks for the video.

I don't know if my left trigger finger will reach or not, I don't remember trying that.

I also "safety on" with my index finger on the left side.
Most of the time I am forced to "safety off" with my left thumb as well.
 
Right hand reaches for new magazine which is located on my right hip. While holding the new magazine I hit the mag release with my right thumb and strip the old mag out if it it sticks all with my right hand. Load the new magazine giving it a slight tug to make sure its seated. If the bolt is locked back I hit the release with my left index finger. I bought a ambi safety which i'm learning to use. I'm retired US Army.
 
There are so many combinations to do this. The Vickers video with an ambi mag release (LH index finger) is about as fast as it gets. The slowest is probably RH mag release and using RH on the charging handle to release into battery. I suppose an ambi charging handle could make it faster, but the forward assist can get in the way. The two ways using the BAD lever are plenty fast, but I'm just not a fan of the product. Everyone wants to sell ambi add-on gear because the markup on those items is high. It really depends on end use. If you're shaving tenths of seconds for competition, the add-ons are probably worth it. If you're hosing clay pigeons on a berm, probably not.
 
Right hand reaches for new magazine which is located on my right hip. While holding the new magazine I hit the mag release with my right thumb and strip the old mag out if it it sticks all with my right hand. Load the new magazine giving it a slight tug to make sure its seated. If the bolt is locked back I hit the release with my left index finger. I bought a ambi safety which i'm learning to use. I'm retired US Army.
I see, so you bring the new mag up to the gun first, then drop the old one.
Makes sense. I am always looking for efficiency gains in movement and mechanics, I wonder if that is more efficient.

I will have to try that out. Thanks for putting it out there.
There are so many combinations to do this. The Vickers video with an ambi mag release (LH index finger) is about as fast as it gets. The slowest is probably RH mag release and using RH on the charging handle to release into battery. I suppose an ambi charging handle could make it faster, but the forward assist can get in the way. The two ways using the BAD lever are plenty fast, but I'm just not a fan of the product. Everyone wants to sell ambi add-on gear because the markup on those items is high. It really depends on end use. If you're shaving tenths of seconds for competition, the add-ons are probably worth it. If you're hosing clay pigeons on a berm, probably not.
I agree. I don't like to put stuff on my gun that isn't necessary and wasn't so sure about the BAD lever because it goes inside the trigger guard, but I do compete and anything I can do to speed up is a good thing.
As a side note, that carbine is the only one of mine that wears a BAD lever.
I like Vickers' philosophy of learning to run the "standard" rifle as a lefty so you can pick up any normal rifle and run it in a familiar way. In fact the ambi safety on my SCAR kind of confuses me.
100% agree but I still put ambi safeties on the ARs. Because of that dopey grip fin, I usually only use the right handed safety lever, but when I go out of state, I like to have my options open.
Even righties should get some trigger time in left handed as if you need to shoot from behind cover being able to do it left handed doubles your options as to minimizing your exposure.
Yep. Getting proficient at shooting with the other eye/hand is tricky. I practice right handed on occasion (not nearly enough).

Thanks for the replies all!
 
This is one of those threads that causes your co-workers to look at you odd as you do hand motions in the air figuring out how to describe what your hands do on the rifle :)


To get the mag out, the right hand grips the mag at the base of the magwell, thumb hits the release and the mag gets yanked. I never trust gravity to do my bidding anyways. Right hand grabs a new mag and stuffs it in, then runs back out the forearm and takes control of the rifle. Left hand opens the shooting grip, thumb stays behind the grip, but the fingers move forward to slap the bolt hold open. Re-establish shooting grip by simply constricting the hand.

Charging handle operation, if needed is done with the shooting hand, with the support hand keeping the rifle pressed into the shoulder

I run standard AR controls on my rifles.
 
I don't know where Vickers has been running around, but if you find yourself in a place where there are AR15's laying around, and theres something in the air that makes you forget how to operate a standard AR......then you got bigger problems than a BAD lever.

I strip the mag with my right hand, my right thumb hits the mag release. Then my right thumb hits the BAD lever when I load.

The BAD lever is good for almost a whole second. That's a million bucks in a gun fight. Vickers is wrong, or has trained some real dummies. I run mod controls on all of my AR's. I still remember how to use a KISS carbine just fine, should I find one in a tree or something.

I agree with operating the charging handle with the left hand, if the rifle is on your shoulder and needs charged. But that's unlikely to ever happen. For malf's, I role the pistol over and ooperate the charging handle (BCM large) with the palm of my right hand. While my left trigger finger locks the bolt back with the BAD lever.
 
Even righties should get some trigger time in left handed as if you need to shoot from behind cover being able to do it left handed doubles your options as to minimizing your exposure.

Truth +1000.

Any school that allows you to shoot an AR, right handed, around the left side of a barricade, shouldn't be in business.
 
I'm only lefty part time, but I run ambidextrous selectors, chargers, and mag releases on my rifles. I go back and forth about bad levers, and greatly favor the Teal Blue PDQ over the Bad levers.

When I reload lefty, I run my ambi mag release with my trigger finger, swap mags, then use the ambi charging handle to release the bolt. When NOT using an ambi charger, I just reach up and punch the bolt release with my trigger finger. I've gone back and forth over the years, practicing to use the charger or the bolt release, either works just as well.

Before I adopted Ambi mag releases, I released with my right thumb. Either way works. I generally make contact with the port side release with my right thumb any time I reach for my magazine with my right/support hand - meaning any time I'm not dropping my empty mags in the dirt, aka tactical reload or "no dent" reload. That way if I'm using a rifle without an ambi release, my right thumb goes to the right place naturally and I can use it to release the mag.

I do NOT like the video use of the right hand to manipulate the BAD lever. Really bad practice by someone who thinks it's a cool gadget, but doesn't really know how to run a firearm. Using the off hand forces you into a fine motor control movement (hitting a small target with an unsupported hand) and puts the WRONG HAND FINGER, not anchored and secured against the pistol grip, into the trigger guard. If you took a bump or a stumble and your bolt closed, your off-hand finger is happy to pull the trigger and misfire. If I insisted on using the BAD lever with the wrong hand, I'd up my right hand around the left hand, and use the tip of my right thumb to press the release... But honestly, even that seems silly. Using the BAD lever with the off-hand is silly - it's slow, and it's a small target. The bolt release is RIGHT THERE at the tip of your (left) trigger finger. Use it. If your finger is too weak, then get an ambi charger and use that. It's just as fast, and a much larger target (gross motor control).

I've seen the "reach around" method used in the video too, and it requires just as much finger strength and a more awkward reach than the PROPER method of releasing the bolt with the left trigger finger, and it's slower. Just use the bolt release with your trigger finger, and forget the gimmicks.

"...how do you reload?..." Same way but using the left hand. Handedness makes no difference of any kind.
Anyway, AR's, like FAL's, are operated with the left hand. Safety and mag release are on the left.

Have you reloaded left handed? Or operated an AR? Safety selector and mag release on an AR are on opposite sides. Handedness does matter, especially for the AR - firearms controls, unless otherwise featured/upgraded, are designed for one hand, so a guy can't play the whole "reloading left is just like reloading right..." The mag release is the only control on its side of the rifle, the selector, bolt release, and charging handle release are all on the opposite side from the mag release. When the controls are on ONE side, it's just not possible to use the same "mirror image motion" to operate the firearm with the opposite hand. Can't get very far using your left THUMB to operate the selector as you would right handed... 'Cuz there ain't one on that side... Same with dropping the mag with your left trigger finger - ain't a mag release on that side... Common availability of ambi parts is nice these days, but while everything else can be nearly symmetrically am I, other than the PDQ, that ping pong paddle really wants to be used right handed...
 
I don't know where Vickers has been running around, but if you find yourself in a place where there are AR15's laying around, and theres something in the air that makes you forget how to operate a standard AR......then you got bigger problems than a BAD lever.

I strip the mag with my right hand, my right thumb hits the mag release. Then my right thumb hits the BAD lever when I load.

The BAD lever is good for almost a whole second. That's a million bucks in a gunfight. Vickers is wrong, or has trained some real dummies.
Watch the video again and pay attention to what Larry actually said. He's not talking about picking up an AR that's laying around, or happens to be stuck in a tree. He's talking about pulling an AR from a rack (arms room) of any department or unit he happens to be working with at any location in the world.

This is one subject Larry knows what he's talking about. You sir, are out of your lane
 
Right thumb to release mag and right hand to remove and replace. Release bolt with trigger finger. All of my ARs have ambi safeties and safe is applied with trigger finger and fire is with a flick of my thumb.
 
I'm only lefty part time, but I run ambidextrous selectors, chargers, and mag releases on my rifles. I go back and forth about bad levers, and greatly favor the Teal Blue PDQ over the Bad levers.

When I reload lefty, I run my ambi mag release with my trigger finger, swap mags, then use the ambi charging handle to release the bolt. When NOT using an ambi charger, I just reach up and punch the bolt release with my trigger finger. I've gone back and forth over the years, practicing to use the charger or the bolt release, either works just as well.
I think you are the first I have read that advocates using the charging handle for anything other than initial loading or clearing malfunctions.

I do NOT like the video use of the right hand to manipulate the BAD lever. Really bad practice by someone who thinks it's a cool gadget, but doesn't really know how to run a firearm.
Okay.
Not sure I agree that the guy in the video doesn't know how to run a firearm, though. Seems like he has been shooting for a while and at local and major matches up against some pro and semi pro shooters. If I recall, he places reasonably well...
Also, if I remember correctly, has never had a safety infraction or AD...

Must be a fluke.

I will, of course, defer to your operational experience operating operationally on operations..

Using the off hand forces you into a fine motor control movement (hitting a small target with an unsupported hand) and puts the WRONG HAND FINGER, not anchored and secured against the pistol grip, into the trigger guard. If you took a bump or a stumble and your bolt closed, your off-hand finger is happy to pull the trigger and misfire. If I insisted on using the BAD lever with the wrong hand, I'd up my right hand around the left hand, and use the tip of my right thumb to press the release... But honestly, even that seems silly. Using the BAD lever with the off-hand is silly - it's slow, and it's a small target. The bolt release is RIGHT THERE at the tip of your (left) trigger finger. Use it. If your finger is too weak, then get an ambi charger and use that. It's just as fast, and a much larger target (gross motor control).

I am not sure if you have used a BAD lever?
It is roughly the same "target" size as the mag release.

That hand is anchored, too, BTW (maybe review the video again?) It just put in the new mag. It is still hanging on to the mag well when the Lever is depressed.
Also to note, the lever sticks out of the trigger guard when the bolt is is locked open. Depressing it puts the lever flush with the trigger guard.

I've seen the "reach around" method used in the video too, and it requires just as much finger strength and a more awkward reach than the PROPER method of releasing the bolt with the left trigger finger, and it's slower. Just use the bolt release with your trigger finger, and forget the gimmicks.
You're right, that guy just needs to quit the gimmicks and grow a longer trigger finger. I should have seen it all along.

Thanks for your contributions to the thread.
 
You're right, that guy just needs to quit the gimmicks and grow a longer trigger finger. I should have seen it all along.

You'll note Larry Vicker's video posted above demonstrated use of the bolt release with the left trigger finger (2:07)... I don't have long fingers, shorter than Vickers, whose fingers aren't particularly long. Chris Cavallero with Sig's school teaches the same way. You'll also note at about 0:43 in the original video, the guys trigger finger is almost touching, with no effort, the bolt release. It's not magic.
 
You'll note Larry Vicker's video posted above demonstrated use of the bolt release with the left trigger finger (2:07)... I don't have long fingers, shorter than Vickers, whose fingers aren't particularly long. Chris Cavallero with Sig's school teaches the same way. You'll also note at about 0:43 in the original video, the guys trigger finger is almost touching, with no effort, the bolt release. It's not magic.
Right... So it works for you therefore must work for everybody. Got it.
Even ignoring the snarky comments (who peed in your coffee, man?), I am beginning to get a feel for the kind of poster I am dealing with here.

Your methodology is inconsistent with your comments about small targets and how things aren't anchored.

The bolt release is about the same size (smaller?) as a mag release. That means that without looking, the tip of my index finger has to find that little paddle with just the left hand thumb(?) has an anchor or reference point.

The method demonstrated (still not saying its better, btw) uses up to 4 fingers (2 or 3 should do it) to find that paddle, the hand has an index point (front of the mag well) and does not change the shooting hand grip at all.

Like I said, its not better, but it does seem to work.
 
The tip of the BAD lever which the original video is using is not the same size as the paddle (which IS about the same size as the mag release).
 
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