I don't shoot pistol games, and had no idea what a 124 Gr bullet needed to go FPS wise to make minor back when I worked up a "plinker" load for my 9MM 1911. It just so happened I ended up with a 124 Gr plated bullet running around 1050ish form a 5" 1911. Soft recoil you can shoot all day, accurate, fun, brass drops at your feet, hard to beat.