Remington #11 caps, 40% stronger??

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My wife picked up a tin of Remington #11 caps today at Walmart and I didn't even know Remington made #11 caps anymore.I just told her I wanted some #11 caps if they had any. They also say on the package that they are 40%hotter than any of the others. Loaded up two cylinders (12 shots) for my 1858 Remington this afternoon with 38g of Goex fffg, Wonder wad, .454 swaged ball and a little grease and these new caps . Haven't had a chance to fire off any yet due to my getting ready to hunt Bear in the morning with my longbow.
Has anyone tried these caps? They are a little looser than my CCI #11 and my #1075 German caps. Guess I'll try them later this week.
I would also like to try some of the Goex " pinical" If I can find any. From what I hear it's better than sliced mutton tallow to a mountain man:rolleyes: Been shooting these smoke sticks so long the sulfer in the powder is making me goofy, :neener: Mike
 
I got a tin for my Rem 1858... havent recieved the gun yet so I cant tell ya how they work

Oh what the hell am I saying, i havent even fired any ball & powder yet and I have just about ever accessory possible. I guess lack of experience wont allow me to give a professional opinion... but here's a newby one!

The green tin is easier to find than the white tins
 
Spiggy, Welcome to the world of the old days of black smoke and the day's when they had wooden ships and Iron men ;)
Make sure you clean that piece real well before firing it and really scrub the barrel and cylinder chambers then coat the inside of the chambers and the barrel with a patch full of bore butter. Scrub it until it gets warm and then run just one or two dry patchs down them to dry it out a little.When you fire your first few shots this will help cure the barrel and make leading a little less.
Make sure all the nipple holes are clean and dry, hold the cylinder up to the light and make sure all the holes are open before loading.
For your first few shots please do your gun and yourself a favor and get some .44-.45 wonder wads. Use 20g . of fffg for your first shots. Stand the cylinder up on your bench (chambers side up) and load one cylinder at a time and as you do place a wonder wad on top by sliding over the hole with your thumb and pressing down over the hole to help you seat the wad evenly. If it goes in the hole at an an angle just pull it out with your nipple pick and re-do it. Then take a 3/8" doll rod about 6" long and shove the wad on down on the powder firmly but not real hard, then go on to the next chamber and do the same until all six are loaded and the wonder wad's seated.
Now place a little grease on your cylinder pin and place the gun on half cock and place the cylinder in your gun and slide the cylinder pin in to hold it. Stand the revolver up while holding it with your left hand so that you can place a .451 or .454 ball on the mouth of one chamber. Rotate the chamber untel the ball is sitting right in line with the loading ram. Run the ram down on the ball and shove it down untel the ball sits snuggly on top of the wonder wad. Make sure it's all the way down on the wad. Now rotate the cylinder again and load the next one.Then lock your loading ram out of the way. When all six are loaded place a little grease over each ball , I like to fill the chamber even with the end.
Now the cylinder should spin nicely with a little clicking sound in the back ground. Reminds you of the old coyboy movies, ;0)
Now rotate the cylinder as you are looking at it from the back and untel you can see each nipple clearly on the the right side of the gun frame. Place a nipple on the cylinder and make sure the cap is seated all the way down on the nipple. I like to use a 3/8" x 6" long doll rod with a piece of leather glued on the end and trimed round like the rod. You can gently shove the nipple home with it but don't over do it.
After each nipple is done point the gun in a safe direction and pull the hammer back and while holding it turn the cylinder untel you can safely let the hammer down on one of the open notches and not on any of the nipples.
If you have never handle a revolver it would be a good idea to try that a few times before you load it.
Now your ready to go out side and try it out... Set up a target no more that 5 yards away. You just want to make sure that all is well with the gun so there is no need to be shooting 50 yards and not knowing if you can hit anything yet :D . Pull the hammer all the way back and keep your finger off the trigger untel your ready to fire. Then just squeez the trigger... If you did everyting right it shoul;d go BANG!!!and as you cock the pistiol for the next round the cap should fall off. You may feel ittle sparks hitiing your face and this is normal with these guns.
You can learn all about the tunning and lots of other things from sites like this and a it's really a good idea to get good books on the subject. Most of the 1858 Remintons need some home gun smithing to make them run smooth
and it's a good idea to get to know the gun first . Have fun and be safe.
The Bear are waiting on me:) . Mike
 
and as you cock the pistiol for the next round the cap should fall off.

Or fall down into the works making it harder to rotate the cylinder for the next one.

I'm using CCI #11 caps and they are awful about this. I read that the RWS caps split nice and pretty and fall away. I have a bunch on order.

Beartracker, let us know how these Remington caps perform! CCI stinks :evil:
 
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Or fall down into the works making it harder to rotate the cylinder for the next one.

I'm using CCI #11 caps and they are awful about this. I read that the RWS caps split nice and pretty and fall away. I have a bunch on order.

Beartracker, let us know how these Remington caps perform! CCI stinks :evil:
TexasSIGman, I agree about the caps falling in the works but let me give you a little advice if you don't mind. Remove your nipples from the cylinder and get a good fine stone for your Dremil or drill and carefully and slightly round off the sharp edges of the area around the opening slot that houses the nipple's. One thing that happens if the edge of the cap catches on the sharp edge as it starts to fall off and drops stright down instead of rolling off the edge. After grinding down the edges then use some sand paper and steel wool until it's as smooth as a babys butt and re-blue after you try it. If I'm not to clear on this let me know and I'll take and send some pics when I can . Learned this from an old gunsmith a few years back.
It also helps if you make sure the cap's are seated all the way down on the nipple and I do that with a 3/8"x 6" doll rod with a piece of leather glued to the end. If there seated all the way down they will split but hang on untel you cock the hammer and they fall off to the side.I have had some stay on this way and come all the way around again to that chamber without even falling off at all,:) Just because they were seated all the way down.
Also CCI run a little larger for some reason and it seems that CC! #10 work great! The best cap's I have found are for these guns is the German made #1075 cap's. They are not easy to find and the closest place for me is 55 miles away. The only reason I had my wife pick up some caps at Walmart was because she was going there and I wanted to try some #11 on these new nipples I have and I'm out of #10 or #1075.
Hope this helps a little, Mike
 
Thanks! I will try that. I do have several hundred of the 1075 caps on order. I have heard good things about them from several people.

Thanks for the tip! The Dremel and I can be dangerous, but I'll take it easy. I do know exactly what you are talking about, so I'll try it.
 
Update on the Remington #11. They worked fine on my 1858 and no problems at all. I sure didn't notice any difference in there fire power but what do I know. If it goes BANG !!!! like it should then it's alright with me :D
Shot a treated piece of 2"x10" with a big old knot in it :) Shot the knot and split that sucker right in the center and the ball was deformed and in about 4" of dirt on the other side. Don't ever let anyone try to tell you that these gun's don't have enough power as a man stopper or a large critter stopper.That's just plain BS! :neener: I think that comes from the guy's who shoot 15-20 g. in it for target shooting. :rolleyes: Just kidding target guy's ! , Mike
 
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