Capybara
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Hi all:
I am in charge of eight Remington 1187 Youth shotguns that belong to our local Boy Scout Council. After Summer Camp and months of heavy usage, six of the eight were down for the count and out of action. I replaced a couple of action bars, cleaned them up and replaced the gas rings on all of them. Took them up to Camp this past Sunday and almost all of them were failing to eject. But not consistently, often, when the boys were shouldering them correctly, they seemed to eject, most of the time. But trying to get Scouts to always correctly shoulder them is a challenge, they are often afraid of the recoil and end up holding them incorrectly (not in the shoulder pocket, cheek often off of the stock, etc.) so I am wondering if that could be a factor. When I shoot them, I shoulder them correctly yet I was still getting inconsistent ejections.
I am definitely not a gunsmith. I have the owners manual and made sure that all of the rings around the gas tube were placed in the correct order, but I did not replace all of the other metal rings (there are three besides the rubber gas ring itself). I am going to take all eight to my local gunsmith to let him troubleshoot this but out of curiosity, is there something else that I am missing that would/could cause consistent FTEs after cleaning and replacing the rubber gas ring? My next move, if I had the time, would be to replace all of the other three rings on the gas tube but even then, I don't know if that would mitigate the FTEs.
Since they are Scouts and often physically small, we try to run the lightest shooting commercial loads we can find. Should a well-worn 1187 Youth be able to consistently eject the hulls on average target loads? Personally, if it were up to me, I would have bought twice as many single shot break actions instead of these relatively expensive and finicky semi-autos. They are nice guns but kind of suck for limited maintenance with a lot of rounds through them. I know they bought them because the semi auto is going to put a portion of the recoil to use cycling and they are pretty soft shooting but expecting a bunch of Scouts and adults with limited disassembly and reassembly skills to keep track of those four gas tube rings that must be put back on in the exact correct order for the gun to function is asking a lot.
Single shot break actions would be so much simpler, more reliable and easy to clean. Sigh. Anyway, if I am missing something obvious on the 1187s, please let me know.
I am in charge of eight Remington 1187 Youth shotguns that belong to our local Boy Scout Council. After Summer Camp and months of heavy usage, six of the eight were down for the count and out of action. I replaced a couple of action bars, cleaned them up and replaced the gas rings on all of them. Took them up to Camp this past Sunday and almost all of them were failing to eject. But not consistently, often, when the boys were shouldering them correctly, they seemed to eject, most of the time. But trying to get Scouts to always correctly shoulder them is a challenge, they are often afraid of the recoil and end up holding them incorrectly (not in the shoulder pocket, cheek often off of the stock, etc.) so I am wondering if that could be a factor. When I shoot them, I shoulder them correctly yet I was still getting inconsistent ejections.
I am definitely not a gunsmith. I have the owners manual and made sure that all of the rings around the gas tube were placed in the correct order, but I did not replace all of the other metal rings (there are three besides the rubber gas ring itself). I am going to take all eight to my local gunsmith to let him troubleshoot this but out of curiosity, is there something else that I am missing that would/could cause consistent FTEs after cleaning and replacing the rubber gas ring? My next move, if I had the time, would be to replace all of the other three rings on the gas tube but even then, I don't know if that would mitigate the FTEs.
Since they are Scouts and often physically small, we try to run the lightest shooting commercial loads we can find. Should a well-worn 1187 Youth be able to consistently eject the hulls on average target loads? Personally, if it were up to me, I would have bought twice as many single shot break actions instead of these relatively expensive and finicky semi-autos. They are nice guns but kind of suck for limited maintenance with a lot of rounds through them. I know they bought them because the semi auto is going to put a portion of the recoil to use cycling and they are pretty soft shooting but expecting a bunch of Scouts and adults with limited disassembly and reassembly skills to keep track of those four gas tube rings that must be put back on in the exact correct order for the gun to function is asking a lot.
Single shot break actions would be so much simpler, more reliable and easy to clean. Sigh. Anyway, if I am missing something obvious on the 1187s, please let me know.
