Kenneth Walton
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What are the differences between the Remington Model 700 and the 770?
Remington 700/770
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The 700 is vastly superior in every way. The 710 / 770 is a steaming pile of junk that makes a Bic lighter look like a gleaming example of precision craftsmanship.
If you have a 770 budget, consider the Marlin X7 or the Savage Axis instead. Much better guns at similar prices.
If you have a 770 budget, consider the Marlin X7 or the Savage Axis instead. Much better guns at similar prices.
The Marlin is a better gun. As is the Stevens 200. But the Axis, Ruger American, Mossberg, and Remington 770 are all cut from the same piece of cloth.
All are cheap, disposable guns designed for the guy who plans to shoot no more than a box of ammo each year. Used in those conditions they do what they were designd to do. All of them are more accurate than you'd expect for the money and will probably give a lifetime of service.
None of them have any re-sale value to spek of, so you are stuck with your purchase if you decide to up grade to a better rifle later. Forget about trading up. The real problem is long term durability. They won't hold up to a lot of use or abuse like the better guns. I'm aware of examples of all of them having parts break and the repair costs equaling or exceeding the replacement costs.
Actually the Mossberg version has been sold under 2 differnt names that failed in the market. Remington was the first big name company to offer such a rifle and they are largely dismissed as junk. For some reason that I cannot understand the nearly identical Ruger and Axis are better received. One is as good, or as bad, as the other.
I agree that the Marlin is the pick of the litter in the low price range. I don't agree that the Axis, the American and the Mossberg are the same as a 770.
The Savage and the Ruger are not quite as nice as the Marlin, but both are better than the Mossberg. I wouldn't buy a Mossberg, but if somebody gave me one, I might take it on as a "sow's ear" project to see how much it could be improved.
I wouldn't own a 770 if it were free.
birddog2
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I picked a 770 in .243 several years ago for a yote rifle for $249.00 w/scope. Had trigger work done on it and put a Burris scope on it. Yesterday it printed a .716" 100 yr group w/ Hornady 95 gr superformance ammo. Keep in mind, I have over $500.00 invested now. Out of the box it would not print a 2" group with any ammo. Draw backs, poor factory trigger and it's a short action caliber built on a long action frame. Pro's it's inexpensive enough to do some upgrades like I did. I have taken 7 deer and a lot of other critters with no complaints. Not a 700 and never will be, but a decent entry level firearm.
firesky101
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I have to agree, there is not very many rifles I would lump in with a 770. I believe some confuse the words Value, and Cheap.
Liberty1776
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Dang! Skyshot beat me to it....
Detritus
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First to clarify or solidify what Peyton said, the 700 and the 770 are, design-wise, NOT related.
The 700 is a rifle/action that is considered a "Standard" in the rifle world and has a reputation for smoothness, quality, and in many guises above avergage accuracy.
the 770 is the "product improved" version 710 put out to compete with the likes of the low end Savages (stevens, and base savage). The original 710 wound up being a nightmare for Remington, more design flaws than I can count or remember. Including one that i never heard a full explaination for, something about a poor materials choice causing some sort of magnetic interference with the firing pin
the 710/770 was designed with price point in mind, not quliaty. as others have said it's acceptable in accuracy, mechanically functional, and cheap enough that if it happens to fail after 150-200 total rounds it's near disposable.
If, as has already been stated, you are looking for a rifle purely to hunt with once or twice a year and won't be shooting it on a regular basis, expect only "Minute of game animal" accuracy, and/or are looking for a pretty much disposable rifle, ie shoot it till it fails and then drop it in the nearest metal shredder and buy another/something better. then a 770 might actually be an OK rifle for you
While i was still working behind a gun counter, the absolute easiest way to get a customer who came in looking at a 770 to upgrade to any of the above was to first hand them a 770, then hand them one of the guns above that sold for the same price or maybe $50-100 more.
Compared to pretty much all of it's competitors the Rem770 Feels like the POS it is. Especially to anyone who's owned or used a "real" remington (700, 600, 7 etc).
The 700 is a rifle/action that is considered a "Standard" in the rifle world and has a reputation for smoothness, quality, and in many guises above avergage accuracy.
the 770 is the "product improved" version 710 put out to compete with the likes of the low end Savages (stevens, and base savage). The original 710 wound up being a nightmare for Remington, more design flaws than I can count or remember. Including one that i never heard a full explaination for, something about a poor materials choice causing some sort of magnetic interference with the firing pin
the 710/770 was designed with price point in mind, not quliaty. as others have said it's acceptable in accuracy, mechanically functional, and cheap enough that if it happens to fail after 150-200 total rounds it's near disposable.
If, as has already been stated, you are looking for a rifle purely to hunt with once or twice a year and won't be shooting it on a regular basis, expect only "Minute of game animal" accuracy, and/or are looking for a pretty much disposable rifle, ie shoot it till it fails and then drop it in the nearest metal shredder and buy another/something better. then a 770 might actually be an OK rifle for you
While i was still working behind a gun counter, the absolute easiest way to get a customer who came in looking at a 770 to upgrade to any of the above was to first hand them a 770, then hand them one of the guns above that sold for the same price or maybe $50-100 more.
Compared to pretty much all of it's competitors the Rem770 Feels like the POS it is. Especially to anyone who's owned or used a "real" remington (700, 600, 7 etc).
wild willy
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700 = One of the best bolt action rifles
710/770 = One of if not the worst bolt action rifle
710/770 = One of if not the worst bolt action rifle
adelbridge
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The 770s are prone to breaking and I have felt better actions on rusted WWI war relics. An equally priced good used bolt gun are a dime a dozen at all the gun shows I go to.
Ehtereon11B
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Looks like I am the only person who has had decent luck with the 770. The 770 was designed as a budget rifle. Quiet a bit more polymer parts instead of wood or metal to reduce cost and weight depending on model. The scope is pretty bottom of the barrel but I was able to get 3" groups at 100 using Prvi Partizan ammo. Definitely will replace the scope with something better eventually. I have done some of my own work smoothing out the feed ramp and action to make it easier to operate. Looking back I wish I had gotten a 700 over the 770.
birddog2
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Have to agree with Ehtherton post= didn't buy it for a target rifle or closet queen. I have nice firearms don't get me wrong. While this may not be one of them. It does what it is supposed to. Not everyone has a grand to drop on a rifle, been there and done that. If you have a $300.00 budget for a deer rifle, buy one shoot a deer and be happy!
The issue with the 770 "budget" gun though, is that there are plenty of better options available out there. A used 700 for example or occasionally a new one. I got a .30-06 700 with the plastic stock and iron sights for $325 new a few years ago. There are soooo many good used guns on the racks at pawn shops, gun stores or gun shows. And there are a ton of them with just a few boxes of ammo through them (if that).
Kachok
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Rem 700s are bad enough, I won't touch a 770 they are really really BAD. Invest in a good Winchester, Savage, or Tikka they have much better build quality. My last three Remingtons (two 700s and a 552) were all garbage as was my friends brand new R1, total waste of money I won't touch another one on a bet.
GuysModel94
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I would totally agree with texag and kachok, i would also say to look at a used Model 70, made between 1966 and 1975, not as good as a pre64 but a better rifle than the new Remys. IMO
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