Remington 742 30-06 FPS ?

[BWstickman]

I’m reloading for my uncles 742 30-06 he left me and I know there guns that come with a lot of issues… so far this 9ne has been cycling pretty good with my loads… I’m loading 46gr of imr4895 with a 165gr Sierra HPBT and I’m getting average of 2450fps… I’m looking at M1 Garand load data and I’m about 1 grain shy of a max load for that gas operated gun… I’ve got a buddy that reloads for the m1 and he’s telling me my bullets are going to slow he’s recommending 48gr 4895… I’m happy with the accuracy right at 1” at 50 yards so I’m thinking 2” or so at 100 yards… this gun is only gonna be for Avereage size Whitetail deer in the 110lb field dress weight range… Do you guys think I’m under load8ng this rifle or should I bump it up a grain or two?

 

[Milt1]

My guess is every reloader likes to experiment so if I were you I do just that, what's to hurt?

 

[jmr40]

Those numbers don't look right. According to my load data 46 gr of 4895 should be giving you around 2700 fps and is listed as a max load. Another source shows 47.5 as max at 2782 fps. But that is not Garand data.

My data for the Garand shows 46.2 gr as max at 2654 fps. You're about 200 fps slower than expected for the load you have. I don't load for semi-autos so I may not be the best source, but I'd hesitate to go any further than you are in that rifle. If a bolt action 48 gr is only 1/2 gr over max and I MIGHT do that.

It isn't unusual for individual rifles to shoot slower than expected especially with barrels shorter than the ones used to develop the load. But 200 fps is more than I've ever seen. If you're happy with the accuracy I'd stay with what you have. You're probably not going to be shooting long range anyway and your bullets will be impacting at 100 yards at about the same speed as a load 200 fps faster at the muzzle would impact at 250-300 yards.

 

[Seedy Character]

If you are happy with the function and accuracy, I wouldn't worry about it.

The deer won't know the difference.

 

[Duster340]

If you are happy with the function and accuracy, I wouldn't worry about it.

The deer won't know the difference.

I agree with this/\. My 7400 runs seamlessly and gets great accuracy with deer loads in the mid-level published load ranges. No reason to beat the gun up more than I need to imo.

Be well folks

 

[EricBu]

For the 740 series of semi-auto, I'd definitely stick with Garand load data. Those guns have a history of not doing well with a steady diet of modern commercial .30-06. I have one myself. I think they are great guns, and capable of surprising accuracy. I know a dozen guys are going to come on here and say "I shoot full house loads all the time in mine"...and I won't argue with them...yes, the gun should handle it......and yes, some do just fine.........but more of them can't handle. A mag or two every year, probably fine........but I'll feed mine nothing but Garand loads for the rest of it's life... And no, if your gun is cycling just fine.......the white tail aren't going to complain about it being a little bit slow.

 

[hdbiker]

I shot 50-60 deer with my 742 in .308 Win. My favorite load was 45 Grains of IMR 4064 under a 165 grain Speer round nose bullet. Almost all the issues with the 742 was with the longer bullets, 30-06 in length. shorter bullets almost never. I never had a jam and the receiver showed no sign of bolt contact.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

I’m loading 46gr of imr4895 with a 165gr Sierra HPBT and I’m getting average of 2450fps

That sounds about right. The 742 has a 22” barrel. The 165gr HPBT-GameKing seems to like the older Remington barrels just fine. At 200yds you’ll lose about 5.5” and almost 500fps of velocity. I think keeping shots inside 150yds might be playing it a little safer. But I don’t think you’re going to lose a 110lb’er at 200 hitting it with that bullet at that speed. Shot placement is the name of that game.
The 742 is a finicky eater. If you have a load it likes, go for the best accuracy that still extracts and feeds. Terminal velocity, as long as you get past 2000fps, won’t make up for a missed heart cavity.
Just my opinion.

 

[bigpower491]

For the 740 series of semi-auto, I'd definitely stick with Garand load data. Those guns have a history of not doing well with a steady diet of modern commercial .30-06. I have one myself. I think they are great guns, and capable of surprising accuracy. I know a dozen guys are going to come on here and say "I shoot full house loads all the time in mine"...and I won't argue with them...yes, the gun should handle it......and yes, some do just fine.........but more of them can't handle. A mag or two every year, probably fine........but I'll feed mine nothing but Garand loads for the rest of it's life... And no, if your gun is cycling just fine.......the white tail aren't going to complain about it being a little bit slow.

I agree. I've seen more than enough broken ones over the yrs to say keep it reasonable

 

[BWstickman]

Guys I appreciate the feedback!!! I think I’m gonna stretch it out to 100 yards latter this week and see how she does

 

[Jeremy2171]

Ok first off it's not a garand. It's more like a carbine with it's gas port so close to the chamber. That means it's more powder sensitive than a garand.

Throw the Hornady garand data out as it's about useless anyways.

Get your regular 30-06 data and use powders on the faster end of the spectrum. IMR 3031, H335 etc.

I no longer repair 742s as there is no supply of spare parts.

 

[243winxb]

Old Remington owners manuals can be found here. https://www.remarms.com/support/owners-manuals

Nothing on ammo. But shows how to take 742 apart. To easy to loose a part, so dont?

Can Google " field Service Manual 740 742 for more. Includes troubleshooting.

 

[rondaxe]

A Garand load at 46 grs.of IMR 4895 is for a 150 gr. FMJ bullet. The lowest starting load I could find for IMR 4895 with a 165 gr. jacketed bullet was 48 grs. with just a little over 2700 ft. so 2400 ft. with 46 grs. with a 165 gr. bullet may be about right.

 

[BWstickman]

It was actually from the 168gr bullet data… I’m using the tenth edition Hornady manual

 

[jmorris]

I’ve got a buddy that reloads for the m1 and he’s telling me my bullets are going to slow he’s recommending 48gr 4895… I’m happy with the accuracy right at 1” at 50 yards so I’m thinking 2” or so at 100 yards… this gun is only gonna be for Avereage size Whitetail deer in the 110lb field dress weight range…

Your velocity seems on the low side but you still have 2200 ft/lbs of energy. The 300 blk only has 1300 ft/lb supersonic and lots of people have killed deer with it.

You’ll probably run out of accuracy before you get far enough away to not have adequate energy.

 

[GooseGestapo]

For deer, I’d drop down to a 150gr bullet. Velocity gives a flatter trajectory to 300yds.
48.0gr of H4895 (equivalent of 49.0gr of IMR-4895).

2,750-2,800 is easily obtained.
My best accuracy from a M742 was with IMR 3031. 44.5gr
Most popular load is a 150gr Nosler Ballistic Tip over 48.0gr of IMR4064. I’ve seen some impressive groups shot with this.