Didn't realize that it was just a warmed-over Savage.
Around here you can't hardly give away a 710,or 770..I think the 783 is concidered by most as just a slightly modified renamed 770..
The Patriot is the one that is in the same ballpark as Axis,and American and the likes,at least I think it is I know they make the Mossberg MVP too.I've never had either one,but I heard they were pretty decent.what is the newer mossberg?