Remington 870, Help!

[Badger Arms]

Yeah, I really have to go with what Virginian is saying. I'd take it back and ask them to either take the gun back... it was a broken gun... or make it right for you. Between your (and our) time here and the money spent on ammo as well as that you'd have to spend to fix the gun, I think it should at least come out of their profit margin.

Obviously, the reason the gun was pawned was because the monkey that owned it prior dicked it up.

 

[Badger Arms]

hmmmm, double checking the pic, is that the same cam? It looks like this is your interrupter (right) latch cam. The one you were having problems with was your left cam. Can't tell from the pic, but ... well, yeah, I can. It's either your right latch or your slide slots? Either way... dicked up, replacement costs AT LEAST $50, probably closer to $100 with a new bolt slide and right latch as well. Benelli nova sounds like a bad idea if it's from the same shop. I'd want my cash back.

 

[atrain08]

hmmmm, double checking the pic, is that the same cam? It looks like this is your interrupter (right) latch cam. The one you were having problems with was your left cam. Can't tell from the pic, but ... well, yeah, I can. It's either your right latch or your slide slots? Either way... dicked up, replacement costs AT LEAST $50, probably closer to $100 with a new bolt slide and right latch as well. Benelli nova sounds like a bad idea if it's from the same shop. I'd want my cash back.

Well, it being a pawnshop I doubt they would give me my money back, and since we got the two guns as a package deal I would probably not get as much back as I should. In the owners defense, I doubt he would have known this gun had the problem unless he took it apart and checked it out. Plus unless you know what you are looking at you might over look it. By the way, the marking on the barrel says RN, isn't that November 1922? As long as he will keep trading me a different gun I should eventually get a good one! http://www.remingtonsociety.com/rsa/questions/barrelcodes

 

[Badger Arms]

No, silly, that's 1993. The codes repeat, uh, every 26 years by my rough calculations. If you give us more pictures of your latches, bolt slide, action bars, etc, we could probably tell you what parts you need to order. Then toss the old ones in the trash.

 

[hometheaterman]

If you and your dad are both having problems with the guns you bought I'd never deal with that pawn shop again. BTW If they would let me trade up for a Benelli Nova I'd do that for sure as long as the Nova was in nice shape.

 

[atrain08]

I will let you all know what happens tomorrow. Considering what I already have in the gun I don't really want to spend $60+ on parts.

 

[atrain08]

Well I took the Remington 870 back today. The owner looked at it and tried to cycle a few rounds through it and sure enough it wasn't working so he apologized, and offered me a refund or trade for another shotgun. Since I had been eying the Nova I traded for it. I cycled a bunch of rounds through the Nova and it works great! I also fully disassembled it and looked at all the things that were a problem on the Remington 870 and all the parts look like new in this Nova. Although I did not get to shoot it today I am confident that this is a good one. None of the paint is even worn off the internals, so I don't think its been shot much. I couldn't find any powder residue inside it either. Thanks a lot for all the help you guys offered me. I really appreciate it. I do have one more questions though. What choke do you all recommend for shooting clay pigeons? I want to get fairly good at shooting this shotgun before I try to hunt the real thing. Thanks again

 

[Badger Arms]

For trap, I prefer Modified Cylinder. For skeet, I shoot with a "Skeet" choke. It's a little over Cylinder. For sporting Clays, I shoot with the skeet choke too, but I've been thinking about switching to Improved cylinder. Just don't shoot sporting clays often enough.

 

[hometheaterman]

For trap I like my full choke as I like to shoot them farther out. However, a buddy that's really good likes a modified for his. It all seems to be a personal preference.

BTW as long as that Nova is in good shape I think you made a great choice.

 

[atrain08]

For trap I like my full choke as I like to shoot them farther out. However, a buddy that's really good likes a modified for his. It all seems to be a personal preference.

BTW as long as that Nova is in good shape I think you made a great choice.

Thanks. I will probably try a full choke for now since I am slow. If I am understanding things correctly, the modified choke is better for people that are quick and can shoot the clays while they are close. Hopefully I can graduate a modified chokes sometime.

 

[atrain08]

Well I put 75 rounds through the Nova today and it performed flawlessly. I really like it. I can see this sport getting very expensive quickly! It is a lot of fun. Almost more fun than shooting my handguns.

 

[atrain08]

I'm glad you got your problem worked out. I had a similar problem with a new Pardner Pump (an 870 clone) I bought. I had the parts replaced where I bought the gun and it works perfectly now.

All manufactuers have problems at times. It stinks when it happens to you. I've bought a lot of guns in my life but this was the first one I ever bought that had a problem right out of the box. Hopefully I won't have any more luck like that in the future.

You did the right thing by going back to the seller. I've had sellers help me months after buying a gun from them even when I should have had to deal with the factory myself.

Looks like you have a pretty good list of guns already so I suppose you know these things already. Again it's good you had your problem fixed.

Thanks, I'm glad it worked out as well. Like you, That Remington 870 was my first firearm that I had problems with. Everything else has worked flawlessly without a single jam, or hiccup.

 

[Virginian]

I have seen a lot of 870s. 58s, 878s, and 1100s, and I have never seen a set of action rails beat up that bad in that location before. Looked like Arnold was using it for arm strength training back in the pre-Gov. days. Too late now, but I wonder what the back of the bolt and rear inside of the receiver looked like. The 1100 has a plastic buffer, and I doubt they hit anywhere near that hard.

 

[Badger Arms]

I have seen a lot of 870s. 58s, 878s, and 1100s, and I have never seen a set of action rails beat up that bad in that location before.

Agreed wholeheartedly. I've seen abuse before. I've seen the notches battered and 'mushroomed' out like those on a pin punch that has been beat on for years. I've seen bent things and amature gunsmithed things. I've seen dremmel scars next to the abused sites on guns people were trying to peddle at the shows...

But I've NEVER seen any abused this badly. You really can't abuse it much further because the gun will cease functioning... as it did in this case. This should be a lesson that when you're buying a used gun, outward appearance is not so much an indicator of condition as a good function check and peek at the internals.