remington mosin?

[nastynatesfish]

I just got a mosin nagant sight unseen from a guy at work for 50 bucks. I picked it up and thought he gave me the wrong rifle. Its a mosin nagant but on the front of the octogon reciever its stamped
Remington
Armory
1917
Its a 762 54 and it has a latter sight. It shoots good but the outside is in rough shape. Ill get some pics posted in the next day or two. Any info?

 

[Cosmoline]

For $50 if it's intact (full stock, original sights, straight bolt handle, etc) you got a really good deal. Pics would be great.

There's an interesting story behind those. They were made for the Czar during WWI during a period when Imperial Russia was losing men and rifles by the trainload to the Germans. Unfortunately there was a wee little revolution and the Czar could no longer make good on his promises. So the US ended up with a surplus of Mosin-Nagant M91's. A number ended up with the Finns, and a bunch were bought by the feds to keep Remington and Westinghouse from bankruptcy. They were too important to fail, so to speak. These were surplussed at a loss or sent to national guard units.

Lots of info here:

http://www.mosinnagant.net/ussr/US-Mosin-Nagants.asp

As the article notes, Bannerman ended up with quite a few and some of these were hacked down and rechambered in .30'06. These are not safe to fire and may not even be properly marked. You can tell them from the oddly shortened barrel at the receiver end.

 

[nalioth]

For $50 if it's intact (full stock, original sights, straight bolt handle, etc) you got a really good [strike]deal[/strike] steal.

Fixed.

 

[jpwilly]

During WWI contracts were issued to New England Westinghouse and Remington for 1.8 and 1.5 million M91s respectively. The contracts were not fulfilled due to the Russian revolution and many of the rifles were sold on the US civilian market and to the US government for training purposes.

 

[W L Johnson]

If it's in half way good condition, they sometimes go for 6 to 10 times that.

 

[dirtyjim]

yep, remington made them. there were also some m91's made in france too.
i have a remginton m91 thats been rebarreled to 220 swift & a new england westinghouse bannerman 30-06 conversion

 

[Big Bill]

Congratulation - what a steal of a deal!

 

[nastynatesfish]

The bolt handle is bent already. The stock is complete but rough. The barrle looks like it was shortened because the front sight looks like it has been silver soldered.

 

[BrocLuno]

OK, clean slate and do what you want Great re-finish project and no loss of history here. Excellent buy

 

[cleardiddion]

Well, even with the alterations it's a good deal in my mind.
Kills me a little inside though.

 

[foghornl]

Remington DID make some of the early M-N rifles for "Czarist-era" Russian Army. IIRC, another US maker was also involved...Westinghouse, maybe??? just don't remember...I'm a couple of gallons short on coffee so far today...

Oh, well maybe it is time to visit the 762r54 website again....

 

[MN9159]

Remington DID make some of the early M-N rifles for "Czarist-era" Russian Army. IIRC, another US maker was also involved...Westinghouse, maybe??? just don't remember...I'm a couple of gallons short on coffee so far today...

Oh, well maybe it is time to visit the 762r54 website again....

You would be correct, Westinghouse also made some early M91's

 

[cleardiddion]

A number of months back American Rifleman ran an article on the subject.

Iirc, once the Bolshevik revolution happened we stopped shipping them over there and actually issued them as reservist/training rifles stateside. These rifles actually stayed in service after WW1 and some examples were given to military academies and others sold through the previous incarnation of the CMP.

They did see some combat use in the Siberian campaign right after WW1. They replaced the 1903's because it was thought that they could use stockpiles of 7.62x54R stockpiled by the Czarist forces before their downfall.

And...that's really all I can think of for now. Didn't really get much sleep last night and kinda numb right now.
I'll see if I can dig up some other stuff later.