Remington New Army vs. Colt 1860 Army
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Acorn Mush
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Dang! I can't believe I was the first one to vote in this poll!
Smokin'Joe
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Colt Rules!
My first exposure to black powder was in the early 1970s with Remington New Army revolvers, both original and reproduction. The experience was so bad that I swore off of black power for forty years. How could anyone enjoy a gun when the cylinder binds up after 12 to 18 rounds? Thanks to a Cabela’s sale I was tempted to purchase a Colt 1860 repo and I am enjoying black powder at last. I simply do not understand shooter’s attraction to Remingtons. Colt Rules!
My first exposure to black powder was in the early 1970s with Remington New Army revolvers, both original and reproduction. The experience was so bad that I swore off of black power for forty years. How could anyone enjoy a gun when the cylinder binds up after 12 to 18 rounds? Thanks to a Cabela’s sale I was tempted to purchase a Colt 1860 repo and I am enjoying black powder at last. I simply do not understand shooter’s attraction to Remingtons. Colt Rules!
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junkman_01
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At the beginning of the Civil War, a Colt 1860 was selling for TWICE as much as a Remington. It wasn't until Eli Remington went to the Army and said he could produce his revolver, or even the Colt design for half of what Colt was selling his revolvers for that Samuel Colt lowered his price. Where you got the idea that a Remington was more expensive, isn't in line with the truth! Folks usually buy what is cheapest.
BCRider
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No, no, no. Nope, that's just wrong. REALLY wrong.
It shouldn't be "vs" in the title. It needs to be "which one first?".
Either that or your poll needs a "yes please, one of each" option.
Having both I'd have to say "yes please, one of each". Especially after seeing how well my old Replica Arms 1860 shot for me in my recent thread on my last day out BP shooting.
It shouldn't be "vs" in the title. It needs to be "which one first?".
Either that or your poll needs a "yes please, one of each" option.
Having both I'd have to say "yes please, one of each". Especially after seeing how well my old Replica Arms 1860 shot for me in my recent thread on my last day out BP shooting.
I'm talking about expense to the man on the ground. The soldiers preferred the Remington, however, the Army issued you a Colt. If you wanted a Remington you had to buy it yourself at full market price instead of using the one Uncle Sam lent you.
Also, the Colt 1860 continued it's prominence because so many soldiers "liberated" their guns from the Army when they went home.
EVERYTHING is expensive when it's compared to something that's free.
Also, the Colt 1860 continued it's prominence because so many soldiers "liberated" their guns from the Army when they went home.
EVERYTHING is expensive when it's compared to something that's free.
The Colt 1860 fits my hand MUCH better than the Remington (and better than the stubby grip of the 51 Navy/73 SAA). It points wonderfully, and is definitely lighter than the Remington. ;-)
I'm actually surprised at the early results (8 Colt to 1 Remington), as most comments I read are how everyone wants a Remington. I want another one myself, but I will HAVE to do something about the grip shape...
I'm actually surprised at the early results (8 Colt to 1 Remington), as most comments I read are how everyone wants a Remington. I want another one myself, but I will HAVE to do something about the grip shape...
BCRider
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Well THAT certainly wasn't clear from the title or first post wording....
With this new approach in mind I'd have to say "I don't know". I know that both guns shoot well but these days "we" don't load or shoot them in the way that folks back in the Civil War would have loaded and shot them. Or at least not many of us do. For example the question of over bullet and behind bullet lubing are big around here. But did the guys in the war even bother with it? And if not what was the effect on the reliability of each gun?
With this new approach in mind I'd have to say "I don't know". I know that both guns shoot well but these days "we" don't load or shoot them in the way that folks back in the Civil War would have loaded and shot them. Or at least not many of us do. For example the question of over bullet and behind bullet lubing are big around here. But did the guys in the war even bother with it? And if not what was the effect on the reliability of each gun?
junkman_01
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The .44 caliber Remington was manufactured for the Union Ordnance Department at a cost of just $15.00 per gun.
The equivalent Colt Army Model 1860 was retailing for $25.00 and Samuel Colt soon dropped the price to $14.50 in attempt to win back customers.
I don't know what a Remington could be had for in a hardware store at the time though.
The equivalent Colt Army Model 1860 was retailing for $25.00 and Samuel Colt soon dropped the price to $14.50 in attempt to win back customers.
I don't know what a Remington could be had for in a hardware store at the time though.
junkman_01
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I think the results are conclusive.
Colt over Remington 8 to 1 !
Colt over Remington 8 to 1 !
Fingers McGee
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HDCamel said:
Don't know where you get your information; but, that's just wrong.
There were approximately 35,000 Remington Navy revolvers and 145,000 Army revolvers delivered to the US Government from 1861 through Apr 1865. During the same period, there were approximately 95,000 Colt Navy and 150,000 Colt Army revolvers made. Colt and Remington Army models were just about even as far as production and sale to the Government went, so a soldier had about a 50/50 chance of being issued either one.
And, I prefer the Colt. Fits my hands better, is more accurate, and is much easier to clean IMNSHO.
72coupe
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I have a Remington but prefer the 1860 feel.
jtscuba02
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I'll take the Remington, please.
scrat
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OPPOSITE> Colt was charging the government $25 per gun during the civil war. Remington came along and offered their gun for 14 a gun and said they would even make colt style guns for the same price. During the end of the civil war Colts were selling at around 12.
junkman_01
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scrat,
Don't you READ the posts before you reply? I said the very same thing in posts #6 and 11. :banghead:
Don't you READ the posts before you reply? I said the very same thing in posts #6 and 11. :banghead:
I've never been enamored of the aesthetics of the 1860 Colt. I like all the other C&B Colts a lot.
The older I get, the more I like the RNMA. I'll take the Remington.
I may just have to get an 1860 Colt, just to see why this ugly revolver is so popular.
I think the real problem with this poll is the fact that it doesn't include the 1851 Navy.
The older I get, the more I like the RNMA. I'll take the Remington.
I may just have to get an 1860 Colt, just to see why this ugly revolver is so popular.
I think the real problem with this poll is the fact that it doesn't include the 1851 Navy.
junkman_01
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A Colt 1860 ugly? When was the last time you had your eyes checked? 
Fingers McGee
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Well, truth be known, I favor the 1861 Navy myself.
Sorry, junk. I prefer the 51 Navy and the Remington to the 60 Army.
Unless we're talking snubs, I like the 60 snub better than the 51 snub.
Blasphemy, though it may be, I like the looks of the .44 cal 51 Navy better than the 60 or .36 51.
Remember, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
Unless we're talking snubs, I like the 60 snub better than the 51 snub.
Blasphemy, though it may be, I like the looks of the .44 cal 51 Navy better than the 60 or .36 51.
Remember, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
The '61 Navy is just barely the better looker over the '60 Army. The non-rebated cylinder, smaller grips and larger forcing cone give it the edge.
I haven't been convinced I like ".36" caliber over ".44", but who knows, maybe someday.
Apologies, but the NMA is not easy on my eyes. It's said that Eugene Stoner took his inspiration from the aerospace industry. By my estimation, the designers at Remington had a strong background in mud fences. Of course, looks aren't everything.
But this thread is about preference. Which of the two do you prefer over the other? On another board, we'd be talking about old Chevys or Fords, or maybe about Irish or Scotch.
Busyhands94
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Funny this thread should pop up. I went to the gun shop today and fondled a Colt 1851, in 36 caliber. I fondled my Remmy when I got home just like I always do. The Remmy feels like "That special one" to me. My very first .44, The one that helped me recover from getting my heart broken, the one that I train with and get more trigger time with than any other gun I own. The one I shot pumpkins with after Halloween. The Remington gets my vote.
scrat
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my pietta 1851 hand grip feels better than my 1860 shoots better than all of my guns. however my 1858 is badazzzz nuff said.
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