Remington New Army vs. Colt 1860 Army

Which do you prefer?

  • Remington 1858

    Votes: 68 50.0%

  • Colt 1860

    Votes: 68 50.0%
  • Total voters
    136
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These questions are always a pissin' match because they're subject to opinions, and everybody has their own. Both of these pistols are excellent, hard-hitting weapons that have their own pluses and minuses, and one doesn't necessarily shine over the other. On the Colt, you'll have more cap jams, and on the Remington, the cyl pin needs constant attention or it will jam up after as few as five rounds (from personal experience). Arbor vs top strap is merely a matter of perception as the Colt arbor system is every bit as strong as the top strap, it just isn't as visible and so seems a little like magic to some folks. I think, after 175 years of testing, that it's proven itself to be reliable.

Changing out cylinders is faster on the Rem, but by only about five or ten seconds. The hammer notches on the Rem are a better safety system than the pins on the Colt (but that has no bearing on how the pistol shoots), and the sighting system on the Rem is possibly better than the hammer nose "sight" on the Colt (but not by much).

I could go on, but why? I had a NMA and an 1860 Colt, and after shooting both, I gave the NMA to a friend for his birthday. I just liked the Colt better; I thought it "looked" a little less modern than the Rem with its top strap, and I liked the way it fit my hand. And that is the the point I'm trying to make: just get what you like. Neither gun is superior over the other, they both have their little quirks that you'll have to deal with, so just go by your gut and sense of history; try them both, if you can, and get the one that tickles your fancy. Besides, if you're like a lot of folks on this site, you'll end up owning both, anyway! :D

JMHO
 
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I vote for the 60, imo they ballence better and look alot better. however if i had to go with brass frames i would go with the 58.
 
First to 44?

If the first to 44 wins, the 1860 has won the race. 45 for the 1860, 33 for the NMA.

Not bad. But if the poll doesn't end up at 50% & 50%, or at least within +/- 10% of that, I will be surprised.
 
I'm surprised too, given how much everyone talks about/wants a Remington. I guess us Colt types are just more reserved. ;)

AND, I just got a UPS notification that I have a package on the way... :D
 
Stophel said:
I'm surprised too, given how much everyone talks about/wants a Remington. I guess us Colt types are just more reserved. ;)

AND, I just got a UPS notification that I have a package on the way... :D
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The phrase "noisy minority" comes to mind. :p

It's easy to be a fan of the Colts. They are fascinating, beautiful, accurate, powerful, and they fuel our charcoal addiction. I have a really hard time finding fault with them, in the context that they are cap and ball revolvers from the mid-19th century. Cap jams: happen. Misfires: can happen. That much is true of even the vaunted ROA.

It's harder to be a Remington fan. (Sorta like being a fan of the team that comes in last place every year? :neener: ) Sure, they are also accurate, powerful, and spew the same sulfurous smoke. But they have looks and clunky features that only a mother could love. That said, there isn't much to really complain about with these guns either.

There is some honor is loving the ugly duckling, but most of us would choose the pretty gal, all else being equal.
 
I do like my Remington, but I have never had a problem getting a Colt apart. I have had problems removing the cylinder pin from the Remmy.....time and time again.
 
It seems that a lot of people like to think they're getting a "magnum" revolver when they buy a Remington. Why, it's stronger, don't you know, full frame and all, and that must mean you can load it hotter than the Colt.

The cylinder is only gonna hold just so much powder. I don't know the capacity difference between the two, but I doubt it's all that much.

I like the Remington too, now, even though it's too heavy and the grip shape is awful... :D

I have the desire to take a Remington and make something of it, I'll have to make a "grip adapter" of some kind, add about 3/8" to the length of the grip frame, and maybe forge out the hammer spur, it's pretty short and not nearly as easily manipulable as the Colt hammer...
 
Lunie said:
The phrase "noisy minority" comes to mind. :p

It's easy to be a fan of the Colts. They are fascinating, beautiful, accurate, powerful, and they fuel our charcoal addiction. I have a really hard time finding fault with them, in the context that they are cap and ball revolvers from the mid-19th century. Cap jams: happen. Misfires: can happen. That much is true of even the vaunted ROA.

It's harder to be a Remington fan. (Sorta like being a fan of the team that comes in last place every year? :neener: ) Sure, they are also accurate, powerful, and spew the same sulfurous smoke. But they have looks and clunky features that only a mother could love. That said, there isn't much to really complain about with these guns either.

There is some honor is loving the ugly duckling, but most of us would choose the pretty gal, all else being equal.
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hehe this is realy what it comes down to the pretty trophy wife or the good cook

ill take the good cook any day

go Remington

everything the colt can do the remington can do better

stronger frame right from the get go,better suited for cyl change out and if loaded right it
does not jam on the cyl pin not ever,but the pretty colt still cap jams on a fairly regular basis.
 
I'll take the Colt because I'm much more familiar with them than Remington.
 
I vote for both, the colt balances better but the remmy is just an eye catching revolver. This debate will go on and on and on and on and on and on some more. This is an opinion type question and everyones opinion is never wrong. Both of these two revolvers are a piece of american history and they have done their job well. We all should just buy each model and shoot them all day long with a grin from ear to ear.:D
 
I like the Remingtons but prefer Colt's, percussion and cartridge, with a particular fondness for the 1860 and Open Top models.
 
Cap jams: happen. Misfires: can happen. That much is true of even the vaunted ROA.
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Been shooting ROAs for since 1979. I cannot recall a cap jam. If I keep the nipples clean, I don't have misfires. But, that's true of my Colts and Remmies. The Colt is the ONLY one that allows a cap to fall into the hammer. But, I haven't had the Remmy that long, so I can't testify to THAT quite yet, but i don't see how a spent cap to get in there through the frame. I did have one get into the next cylinder's nipple, but I just cocked and kept on firing, one less round until I cleared it. THAT hasn't even happened with my ROA.
 
Lunie said:
It's harder to be a Remington fan. (Sorta like being a fan of the team that comes in last place every year? :neener: ) Sure, they are also accurate, powerful, and spew the same sulfurous smoke. But they have looks and clunky features that only a mother could love.
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:what: Look me in the eye and tell me that isn't a nice looking handgun. I mean look at it, it's so beautiful with that antiqued brass frame, nice blued steel, slightly distressed wood, worn cylinder that has a patina. And that converter that makes it shoot .22 LR or short, my gosh that converter makes it even better cause I can shoot indoors. (speaking of witch, I made a little barrel that slips into the existing barrel. That makes it so POA isn't changed everytime I eject and reload. My groups have tightened.)
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That nice sweeping loading lever... The notched cylinder. I'll take a country woman who's God fearing, can cook, shoot, and over some fashion model from the city. I've always been that way about women, and the same applies for guns. I like them to be functional, so the Remmy is perfect. I also feel safer knowing if I'm carrying this thing to check the trot line or something (I like to carry in the woods) because I can load all six and rest the hammer between any chamber I like. It's probably one of my favorite features. And I mean who wouldn't want to be able to carry six? I like knowing if it falls out of my holster when I'm walking and it lands on the hammer I won't get my head blown off. 005-4.jpg
 
Sorry Levi, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And in my eyes, the Remington has no appeal.

That aside, the Colt guns will do anything the Remington does. It's just as practical and functional. They just look a little better (to some) while they do it. The Colt can be carried with 6 as well. (They also have catches between the chambers.)

And MC, I wasn't accusing the ROA of cap jams. I don't know if it does or can. Misfires, on the other hand... Folks can claim what they like, but saying such a thing can't happen is an exercise in prevarication.

Sort of like saying the Remington or 1860 is better than the other. It hasn't been proven in over 150 years, and it never will be, 'cept in the minds of those who bother to argue. ;)
 
Yea, this stupid kind of poll keeps coming up with the same results! I tired of it. It should be a locked sticky, because the final tally is usually the same. :banghead:
 
The results of these polls does reflect what the respondents consider to be their favorites.
If the poll asked which models have people actually bought, then I think that the results could be very different since many folks do own multiple revolver patterns.

I've posted two other polls:

Multiple Voting - Which Of These C&B Models Do You Currently Own?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=633822

What's Your Favorite Colt?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=633966

Regarding polls in general, the more people that vote the more accurate the results. :)
 
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Lunie,

The results of that poll are as expected. The Colt open tops won by a great margin. I no longer find that interesting.
 
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