I picked this one up at the same time I got my fluted Colt Army copy and just now today learned some things about shooting it that everybody else might very well already know
It is a 2004 Uberti copy With .450 chamber mouths and bore measured groove to groove. Seems to like .451 or .454 bullets about equally well. The trigger pull is a creapless 3.5 pounds and the action is as slick as you could want. While mainly concentrating on Colt copies and single shot pistols, I've done enough shooting with it to sight it in, establish that it is more accurate with conical bullets than my other revolvers and that it gets a bit more velocity than my other .44s -even though the bore/cylinder measurements are the same and I use the same measure spouts.
The common wisdom on these is that they have closer tollerances than the Colt Designs and foul up quicker.
They are also thought to be more prone to cap fragment malfunction because of the enclosed frame. I don't think anybody would learn about the fouling problem if they used pyrodex and/ or cleaned the cylinder pin , breach and cylinder ratchet between loadings. The obvious thing that I missed is that the enclosed frame leaves little or no room for cap fragments to fall away from the just-fired nipple as the gun is cocked. So, elevating the revolver for cocking just encourage hang ups.
I got to looking at the substantial distance between the back of the cylinder and the breach and the light bulb went off.
Started cocking the revolver angled downward and giving it a rightward flick to encourage the fired caps to leave through the capping window. For the first time, I went through an entire shooting session without the hint of trouble from burst caps.
It was slick and smooth. The muzzle- heaviness made it hang steady on target. the fairly well home-regulated sights eliminated the need for biasing the elevation and I could see the sights very well.
Eighty- one feet sounds more impressive than 27 yards:
so, I'll go with that.
About 30 years ago, I had a CVA Remington Copy. I recall that it was accurate but did not remember much about the handling drill. Having gotten around to learning to handle the current one right, I have developed a great deal of appreciation for its capabilities. While most shooters like to say that the Colt has a better "feel" I suspect this is only a matter of familiarity and that many Remington enthusiasts will dispute the common wisdom.
These are called the 1858 Remington, Remington Army or New Model Army. The initial date reflects the acquision of the Beals patent and it appears that the first revolvers were produced in 1860. There were a couple of modifications including the substantial hammer safety notches between the nipples and modifications to the loading lever with the final revolver, The New Model Army coming out in 1863. The Remington closely resembled the revolver put out by Eli Whitney the Rogers and Spencer closed frame revolvers and the Spiller and Burr from the Confederacy.
The Remingtons were a big hit with the Union Army which purchased about half as many as of the Colt 1860 Army. They persisted through the last years of the Indian Wars and Buffalo hunts. Buffalo Bill himself was a proponent and wrote nice things to Remington about the Revolver. Historical novelist, Gary Jennings wrote the "Spangle" series of books about a Circus traveling around post Civil War Europe. He equipped his ring master/ trick shot with a Remington touting the advanced design. the hero used it to break glass balls with shot charges and loaded with ball whenever it came time to dispatch the various European miscreants he encountered.
The Remington got a fairly late start among the percussion revolvers but persisted a bit longer. It was 1875 before Remington converted to cartridge and stopped production on the caplock.
It is a 2004 Uberti copy With .450 chamber mouths and bore measured groove to groove. Seems to like .451 or .454 bullets about equally well. The trigger pull is a creapless 3.5 pounds and the action is as slick as you could want. While mainly concentrating on Colt copies and single shot pistols, I've done enough shooting with it to sight it in, establish that it is more accurate with conical bullets than my other revolvers and that it gets a bit more velocity than my other .44s -even though the bore/cylinder measurements are the same and I use the same measure spouts.
The common wisdom on these is that they have closer tollerances than the Colt Designs and foul up quicker.
They are also thought to be more prone to cap fragment malfunction because of the enclosed frame. I don't think anybody would learn about the fouling problem if they used pyrodex and/ or cleaned the cylinder pin , breach and cylinder ratchet between loadings. The obvious thing that I missed is that the enclosed frame leaves little or no room for cap fragments to fall away from the just-fired nipple as the gun is cocked. So, elevating the revolver for cocking just encourage hang ups.
I got to looking at the substantial distance between the back of the cylinder and the breach and the light bulb went off.
Started cocking the revolver angled downward and giving it a rightward flick to encourage the fired caps to leave through the capping window. For the first time, I went through an entire shooting session without the hint of trouble from burst caps.
It was slick and smooth. The muzzle- heaviness made it hang steady on target. the fairly well home-regulated sights eliminated the need for biasing the elevation and I could see the sights very well.
Eighty- one feet sounds more impressive than 27 yards:
so, I'll go with that.
About 30 years ago, I had a CVA Remington Copy. I recall that it was accurate but did not remember much about the handling drill. Having gotten around to learning to handle the current one right, I have developed a great deal of appreciation for its capabilities. While most shooters like to say that the Colt has a better "feel" I suspect this is only a matter of familiarity and that many Remington enthusiasts will dispute the common wisdom.
These are called the 1858 Remington, Remington Army or New Model Army. The initial date reflects the acquision of the Beals patent and it appears that the first revolvers were produced in 1860. There were a couple of modifications including the substantial hammer safety notches between the nipples and modifications to the loading lever with the final revolver, The New Model Army coming out in 1863. The Remington closely resembled the revolver put out by Eli Whitney the Rogers and Spencer closed frame revolvers and the Spiller and Burr from the Confederacy.
The Remingtons were a big hit with the Union Army which purchased about half as many as of the Colt 1860 Army. They persisted through the last years of the Indian Wars and Buffalo hunts. Buffalo Bill himself was a proponent and wrote nice things to Remington about the Revolver. Historical novelist, Gary Jennings wrote the "Spangle" series of books about a Circus traveling around post Civil War Europe. He equipped his ring master/ trick shot with a Remington touting the advanced design. the hero used it to break glass balls with shot charges and loaded with ball whenever it came time to dispatch the various European miscreants he encountered.
The Remington got a fairly late start among the percussion revolvers but persisted a bit longer. It was 1875 before Remington converted to cartridge and stopped production on the caplock.
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