Remlin / Marlington quality

[Badger Arms]

Was at a gun shop yesterday shopping for a lever action and took a look at the Remington-Marlin boondoggle rifles. I heard reports of late Marlin and early Remington era guns being poor quality, especially the fit of the stock to the receiver and the sights. I can tell you that all three of the guns I looked had poorly fitted stocks and sights that were canted 2-5 degrees to the right.

Is there any hope? I heard that Remington was moving all of its production to Alabama. Will the situation improve eventually? I've been deep into the Remington R51 situation lately, but not paying much attention to their other models. I have not seen a new-production Remington lately that is even up to the old bargain ADL and 788 finish quality of the 70's that I grew up with.

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

I live in Alabama about an hour from where the Remington plant is being built. I work in manufacturing also and I can tell you this...IMO Remington quality WILL NOT improve one bit because of the pay rates they are offering. If you want quality work pay quality wages, with the hourly wages they are offering it will be extremely difficult to get quality "proud of your work" employees from their current jobs. Most people in that situation would take a serious pay cut to go to Remington myself included.

 

[Rudedog]

I have an older ADL from the early 2000's and it is crap compared to some of the older used ones I've seen on the racks in pawn and gun shops.
I have looked at the new ones as well and I was not impressed.
The quality and workmanship for the masses is all about deals with Wal-Mart.

 

[USAF_Vet]

I live in Alabama about an hour from where the Remington plant is being built. I work in manufacturing also and I can tell you this...IMO Remington quality WILL NOT improve one bit because of the pay rates they are offering. If you want quality work pay quality wages, with the hourly wages they are offering it will be extremely difficult to get quality "proud of your work" employees from their current jobs. Most people in that situation would take a serious pay cut to go to Remington myself included.

What are they offering?

 

[Bobson]

I had actually heard that their quality (the Marlington 336 offerings, specifically) was beginning to improve significantly. Not necessarily to where it was in the early '90s, but still much better than its been for most of the last decade. I was seriously considering picking up a new 336 as an inexpensive hunting rifle to see me through until I finish school.



Guess I have to continue the seemingly-unending hunt for a good condition pre-safety 336 instead.

 

[Ibmikey]

Rather than continual bashing and cute little monikers of firearms manufacturers on forums perhaps it would be more constructive to send an email or note to the offending builder with your personal observations. If enough feed back were received i would think that even those companies that do their best to insulate themselves from the consumer would be forced to examine the problem. Just a thought from someone who would like to see your concerns addressed by the " offending party".

 

[Salmoneye]

If enough feed back were received i would think that even those companies that do their best to insulate themselves from the consumer would be forced to examine the problem. Just a thought from someone who would like to see your concerns addressed by the " offending party".

You're suggesting Remington/Marlin are unaware of the issues?

The 1894's were so bad that they shut down the lines in late 2012 for many months, and still have yet to produce anything but .44 mag...

The 336's and 1895's have been returned not only by end customers, but by dealers before they would even put them on the racks...

Many of us have contacted Remington/Marlin and voiced our displeasure...

While the company has indeed seemed to 'cure' many of the ills such as barrel droop and cracked receivers, they are still 'working on' canted sights and fit and finish of wood...

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[Badger Arms]

Rather than continual bashing and cute little monikers of firearms manufacturers on forums perhaps it would be more constructive to send an email or note to the offending builder with your personal observations. If enough feed back were received i would think that even those companies that do their best to insulate themselves from the consumer would be forced to examine the problem. Just a thought from someone who would like to see your concerns addressed by the " offending party".

Not sure what you're talking about. I am not bashing, I am observing. Also, the terms "Remlin" and "Marlington" are not 'cute' they are descriptive of the ownership situation. We'll have to come up with a new moniker when they move to Alabama. Perhaps, Bamrlin or Alabamarlington. Whatever, it gets the point across.

I'll add that we are talking about a huge corporation here. Nobody is calling anybody else names. If they produced the R51, I'm sure they have to have thick skin.

 

[Garrobo]

Both

Remington and Marlin are very good gun manufacturers and I hate to see silly names given their products.

 

[Bull Nutria]

i ordered a new Rem 572 22 rifle, it came in but would not reliably fire an assortment of ammo. I sent it in for warranty on 4-23-15, got it back in about 2 weeks, still same problem. sent it off to different warranty station they were supposed to have it done by July 1. I called them today they are waiting for a firing pin and spring from Remington. so i have $550 invested in a new rifle that i cant use.

Evidently it would have been too much trouble for REM to shoot the new rifle and check for proper dents in the rimfire ammo rim.

I have bought my last Remington product.

This is not bashing it is the pitiful truth.

Bull

 

[alsaqr]

Marlin quality control tanked before that company was bought by Remington.

 

[dvdcrr]

The limited engraved 336 looks nice.

 

[Badger Arms]

Remington and Marlin WERE very good gun manufacturers and I hate to see silly names given their products.

There, I fixed it for you. If you haven't been keeping up with current events, Remington IS Marlin now. They bought the company, fired most of the employees, and took the tooling to their factory. They are the same company.

Marlin quality control tanked before that company was bought by Remington.

Marlin quality control tanked when workers in the factory got word that they were selling out which was a while before they actually sold out. It got worse once the deal was officially announced.

 

[dvdcrr]

Its an internet myth the North Haven employees were turning out bad product in 2008 and 2009. - Those workers did the best they could under the circumstances. I have a very nice 2009 336a and I am sure mine was no accident. But thats OK keep repeating the same old mis info so the 09 s are cheaper for me.

 

[d2wing]

The truth is quality control has changed for American and maybe other companies.
It seems that it is cheaper to not inspect or properly monitor products for many companies. Instead the consumer is expected to either accept the product or get the company to fix it as unpaid quality control. Not just Remington. Several other gun companies too.

 

[Quentin]

Remington 1911s of the last few years are very good, especially for the money. I hope that is an indicator that quality is on the rise across their line of products.

 

[TexasPatriot.308]

wouldn't buy either one nowadays

 

[Sheepdog1968]

I bought a 2011 Marlington that was of poor quality and I almost spend out of pocket as much as I paid for it to fix it. As such, I've been keeping a close on on new Marlins ever since. I've handled maybe a dozen Marlins from October 2014 to present that I considered good enough to purchase. These have been either the 336 or 1895 models. I haven't seen any 1894s in person yet.