replacing my remington 870.. but with what?

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not trying to start any arguements, but lately ive been pretty turned off by remington products, and they werent very supportive of the people here in new york state so im thinking ill sell my 870 express, and buy something else

besides that reason, it seems everyone and their grandmother has the 870 or mossberg 500, so im entertaining other options right now besides these two... ive always wanted to get a winchester 1897, but i dont think thats a suitable replacement for a modern 12 gauge.. ithaca 37 is high on the list.. but what other pump or semi shotguns should i consider?.. CZ and weatherby make decent looking shotguns, the benelli nova is pretty nice too...

any suggestions?
 
dakota, im just wanting to get away from remington for a while, try some other brands
 
If you boycott everyone, for every issue, you'll quickly paint yourself into a corner with no options. I can think of a legitimate reason to not buy almost every brand of any type of consumer product. Not just guns.

I consider the 870 to be the best pump shotgun platform made. I'll not let politics decide what is best for me. But I also think very highly of my Benelli M-1 shotguns. In fact they get used more than my 870's, a lot more. If I were going to elemintate the 870 from my options the Benelli Nova would be my 2nd choice in a pump gun.

Of my dad, who was a WW-2 vet would never consider them because they are Italian made. Lots of my dad's generation died in Italy during WW-2. That is a legitimate reason for him not to buy one.
 
Winchester model 12 is a fine shotgun and a comparable replacement. I own several model 12s and several 870s and prefer the model 12.
 
For what purpose?

I love my Browning Maxus. No muzzle jump. Very very very fast! No jams nothing. In its my goose killing gun. I use Patternmaster chokes and flat slay geese with 3" #1 Kents. Even in cold weather it cycles.

In all fairness the first one I owned was an earlier model that had the infamous bad trigger. After a trip to Browning and it broke again Scheels exchanged it.

I bought another and im glad I did!

For a hunting gun, I highly recommend the Maxus or SX3.

Pump gun though the 870 is king and the 500 is good!

In God and Glock we Trust
 
Just as suggested in the above posts, I had an Express and... later got a couple of older Wingmasters which are prettier, but not superior in function or reliability.

So, keep your Express and get whatever else strikes your fancy. But avoid the regret of parting with your Express.
 
As long as you aren't married to it, there is nothing wrong with playing the field a bit. There are a lot of great classic pumpgun designs out there, and getting familiar with some of the classics won't hurt a thing (except maybe your wallet - but some judicious shopping should help out there too).

Do some reading, look around, and see what good deals on older shotguns come your way. Experiment some and learn hands-on where the 'modern' designs come from and how - and why - they evolved. It'll do you good.
 
ive actually really liked the ithaca 37 for a while.. id love to have one of their steel receivered models.. or a saiga 12 gauge which would be a good match for my AK rifle.. maybe ill keep the 870 and buy one of these anyway
 
The new Ithacas are top notch, but they are heavier (a couple lbs heavier) than the old ones due to the barrel being thicker, rated for steel shot and made from 4140 (IIRC).

Ithaca is having an open house on June 26th. You can find the information on shotgunworld. they are going to be giving tours of the factory. My wife, a friend and I are going seeing as it is only a little over an hour / hour and a half from the house.

the Ithaca plant is located west of Mansfield Ohio in Upper Sandusky Ohio, not to be confused with the Sandusky Ohio where Cedar Point Amusement Park is.

Cabelas carries the new Ithacas. If you want to see one, check a Cabelas close to you (if there are any).
 
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Model 12 Winchester. Browning Auto-5. Ithaca 37. Those are all classics that will hold their own in the modern world.

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not trying to start any arguements, but lately ive been pretty turned off by remington products, and they werent very supportive of the people here in new york state so im thinking ill sell my 870 express, and buy something else

besides that reason, it seems everyone and their grandmother has the 870 or mossberg 500, so im entertaining other options right now besides these two... ive always wanted to get a winchester 1897, but i dont think thats a suitable replacement for a modern 12 gauge.. ithaca 37 is high on the list.. but what other pump or semi shotguns should i consider?.. CZ and weatherby make decent looking shotguns, the benelli nova is pretty nice too...

any suggestions?
If you want to stay with pump 870 'Wingmaster' with 'Light Countour' barrel is among the best shotguns of this type ever made.
 
The new Ithacas are top notch, but they are heavier (a couple lbs heavier) than the old ones due to the barrel being thicker, rated for steel shot and made from 4140 (IIRC).

Ithaca is having an open house on June 26th. You can find the information on shotgunworld. they are going to be giving tours of the factory. My wife, a friend and I are going seeing as it is only a little over an hour / hour and a half from the house.

the Ithaca plant is located west of Mansfield Ohio in Upper Sandusky Ohio, not to be confused with the Sandusky Ohio where Cedar Point Amusement Park is.

Cabelas carries the new Ithacas. If you want to see one, check a Cabelas close to you (if there are any).
If one has the money the new 12ga Ithaca is very hard to beat. While the 20ga and 16ga guns are heavy the 12ga is about perfect. A very well made gun that comes with 3" chamber and Briley choke tube system.
 
I am not an Ithaca lover, but the current ones are no heavier than the old ones with the steel receiver from what I have seen. I doubt anyone has a scale accurate enough to measure the difference between steel alloys.
 
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