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Retired UK Cop Attacks Armored Car Robbers - - With Cane!

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Piraticalbob, Jan 28, 2012.

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  1. Piraticalbob

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    Daily Mail Story.

    A pensioner managed to fend off a pair of robbers using his walking stick after his 'instincts' from being being a policeman kicked in.

    Former officer Gordon King, 88, spotted two men attacking the driver of a security van outside a Lloyds TSB and leapt into action.

    The second world war veteran used his aluminum walking stick to 'whack' one of the thieves before the pair fled the scene in Bath, north Somerset, with a 'substantial' sum of money on Wednesday.


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  2. Deltaboy1984

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    Well done!
     
  3. jeepnik

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    Well now. The next thing to be banned in England will be canes. I'd like to see a follow up on his sentencing.
     
  4. AFDavis11

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    I think he was little optimistic.
     
  5. 451 Detonics

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    Bet he goes to jail for attacking those poor robbers who were just doing their job
     
  6. memphisjim

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    bullocks!!!!
     
  7. Jim K

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    The logic will go like this:

    He was not being attacked and so has no possible claim to self defense, which is not in any case permitted in the UK. It was not his money, so he cannot claim to have been protecting his property, also not allowed in the UK. He was no longer a police officer so he was not authorized in any way to make an arrest or stop any activity, or to make any determination as to the legality of any action he might observe.

    Therefore, his attack on the individuals involved was totally unjustified and constitutes assault with intent to inflict pain and grievous bodily harm. He took the law into his own hands which is not allowed under any circumstances in the UK.

    He will probably be lucky not to get 20 years.

    Jim
     
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-walking-stick-old-instincts-kicked-in.html
    Suzannah Hills, "Ex-policeman, 88, foils robbers with walking stick after his 'old instincts' kicked in", Daily Mail, 27 Jan 2012.

    The newspaper comments are running:

    "And now the police will consider arresting him for assault then later the 'victim's' lawyer will sue him for head injuries. Mad mad country this"

    "He will soon be hearing from the ambulance chasers."

    "What a lovely brave old man. Very admirable action he took against these thieves. They don't make them like that these days sadly.."

    "And his summons is in the post for assaulting a criminal, and is expected to get 10 years!"

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-walking-stick-old-instincts-kicked-in.html


    I know all we hear about UK self defense are the short version of Tony Martin's story ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer) ) and the posturing of politicians and gun control nuts on both sides of the Atlantic. But the story mentions "...other passers-by also intervening..." to protect the driver of the security van who was under assault.

    AS I understand it, you can get certified training in use of a cane for self defense from martial arts instructors in Tennessee and the certificate serves as a "cane carry permit" for defense against a charge of "going armed" without a permit if you chose to carry a cane as a personal sefense weapon.
     
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    I'm still trying to understand how he "foiled" the robbers. Sad to hear he was injured as well. Hope nothing bad comes from his injury.

    I'm sure his wife put him in the dog house after all that!
     
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    This is the ballsiest thing to come from Britain in a long time. Ich liebe das!
     
  11. Owen Sparks

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    Canes fall under The Americans with Disabilities Act here in America and are considered medical equipment (just like wheel chairs) and are therefore legal everywhere. You do not even have to tell the police why you are carrying a cane because the nature of your "disability" is confidential medical information.
     
  12. Deltaboy1984

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    Sad the Bobbies over there cant just leave the man alone.
     
  13. Ryden

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    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/32585-samurai-superhero-saves-cops
    They do have some stand up citizen there anyway. From what my brother in law told me (he's english) the officers told him something like "I'm sorry Sir, but we'll have to take you into custady. If you'll just stand over there for a while we'll take care of these gentlemen first" And wouldn't you know it! When they turned around he was gone, and neither of the officers could remember what he looked like.:D
     
  14. Owen Sparks

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    There is a pervasive mentality in England that the state should have a monopoly on the use of violence. When the individual uses force, even in defence of his own life, he is infringing on the governments turf.
     
  15. Ryden

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    Yeah, and it's almost as bad here :mad:
     
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