barnbwt
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From the video, we can see that so far;
-Set screws were added to the sights (presumably so Big Green doesn't even have to maintain dovetail tolerances anymore; previous guns had either bound-up or loose sights)
-The frame machining has gotten cheaper, evidenced by the very shallow scallop being omitted (no biggie, it was never more than an aesthetic touch, but makes telling the versions apart easy --hint). I think it was simply a facing mill run at a shallow angle, but I guess a step saved is a step saved.
The loaded chamber indicator hole rolleyes was present on the last model, too...leaving a very thin strip of metal that looks more fatigue-prone than is needed, to my eyes.
Grip safety being sharp; I to this day have no idea what people are talking about here. The lever has square corners, yes, but the part is clearly blasted/tumbled, which puts about a .03" radius on all sharp edges. You'd only even notice the corner if gripping the gun without depressing the safety, because it drops down flush with the surrounding frame.
Trigger being plastic; looks exactly the same as my gen 1. Granted, this MIM part looks EXACTLY like plastic in the first place, due to the really thick application of some paint. All I care about is whether the new one is as loose as the original.
I notice the takedown pin is still flush on the right side, which apparently makes disassembly difficult for people with stubby fingers. I had heard they were changing how the slide lock spring worked, so it can no longer be assembled incorrectly (despite the hue and cry, it's pretty dang simple to do correctly, and was mostly an excuse for non-technical folks to bash the gun in lieu of real reasons)
Oddly, the frame still says Charlotte, NC, though these guns were supposedly being made in Alabama. Since this is a legal point, I sure hope Remington didn't screw up Taurus Curve-style and release a gun that needs an immediate recall to rectify a clerical error.
Possible explanations;
-Somehow still using the address of the previous manufacture plant; pretty sure that's not legal & would need to be addressed
-The Pineville, NC facility's death was somewhat exaggerated, and workers were secretly still producing new R51 frames in secret (and hopefully in shame)
-Remington is recycling frames of the old R51s for either the warranty guns, or general production. Possible, but I'd like to think they aren't that stupid (which is sadly all too possible at this point) due to the very bad karma of the original guns. This would explain why the scallop feature on the sides is gone, though; poor quality control may have just missed it the first time around (I've seen pictures of guns where the wrong-size tools were made to do internal cuts, or where secondary operations were forgotten)
-Set screws were added to the sights (presumably so Big Green doesn't even have to maintain dovetail tolerances anymore; previous guns had either bound-up or loose sights)
-The frame machining has gotten cheaper, evidenced by the very shallow scallop being omitted (no biggie, it was never more than an aesthetic touch, but makes telling the versions apart easy --hint). I think it was simply a facing mill run at a shallow angle, but I guess a step saved is a step saved.
The loaded chamber indicator hole rolleyes was present on the last model, too...leaving a very thin strip of metal that looks more fatigue-prone than is needed, to my eyes.
Grip safety being sharp; I to this day have no idea what people are talking about here. The lever has square corners, yes, but the part is clearly blasted/tumbled, which puts about a .03" radius on all sharp edges. You'd only even notice the corner if gripping the gun without depressing the safety, because it drops down flush with the surrounding frame.
Trigger being plastic; looks exactly the same as my gen 1. Granted, this MIM part looks EXACTLY like plastic in the first place, due to the really thick application of some paint. All I care about is whether the new one is as loose as the original.
I notice the takedown pin is still flush on the right side, which apparently makes disassembly difficult for people with stubby fingers. I had heard they were changing how the slide lock spring worked, so it can no longer be assembled incorrectly (despite the hue and cry, it's pretty dang simple to do correctly, and was mostly an excuse for non-technical folks to bash the gun in lieu of real reasons)
Oddly, the frame still says Charlotte, NC, though these guns were supposedly being made in Alabama. Since this is a legal point, I sure hope Remington didn't screw up Taurus Curve-style and release a gun that needs an immediate recall to rectify a clerical error.
Possible explanations;
-Somehow still using the address of the previous manufacture plant; pretty sure that's not legal & would need to be addressed
-The Pineville, NC facility's death was somewhat exaggerated, and workers were secretly still producing new R51 frames in secret (and hopefully in shame)
-Remington is recycling frames of the old R51s for either the warranty guns, or general production. Possible, but I'd like to think they aren't that stupid (which is sadly all too possible at this point) due to the very bad karma of the original guns. This would explain why the scallop feature on the sides is gone, though; poor quality control may have just missed it the first time around (I've seen pictures of guns where the wrong-size tools were made to do internal cuts, or where secondary operations were forgotten)