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Review of the Remington RM380

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by C0untZer0, Jan 6, 2017.

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  1. C0untZer0

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    I took advantage of Remington's Black Friday rebate and Hinterland Outfitter's sale and free Black Friday shipping to pick up a RM380 for $239.00

    At first the trigger was OK but then right before it would break it felt like the trigger hit a wall - that's how I describe it. It took a lot of pressure to get that trigger to break. It was like my R9 until the very last when it hit a wall (only way I know how to describe it). But after a lot of dry-firing and a range session the trigger has gotten smoother and it breaks easier. A 10 pull average on the Lyman now shows 8 lbs 10.44 ounces.

    I took it to the range the other day. My first pull of the trigger sent a round downrange, my second pull of the trigger just went "CLICK", I took my left hand off the gun only to find that I had accidentally ejected the mag.

    I couldn't believe it.

    The original R380 had a heel magazine release but I never thought I'd unintentionally release a mag by accidentally hitting the side-mounted mag release button.

    I fired about 150 rounds through the gun after that and I didn't depress the magazine release again. I think I had the gun in a death grip at first, expecting the same kind of recoil I get with the R9. The RM380 is actually comfortable to shoot.

    I shot 150 rounds. A mix of WWB FMJ flat nose, Federal FMJ and Precision One 90gr Hornady XTPs. I didn't have any failures or malfunctions.

    The gun is capable of being pretty accurate, I just couldn't string together 5 good shots. On this shot group - the "flyer" was the fifth round. Shooting standing offhand 21 feet, 4 rounds in 3/4" the fifth round opened the group up to 1 3/4"

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    I like being able to use 6 O'Clock hold, either the pistol shoots a little to the left or I'm shooting it a little to the left, but I like the height of the POI, its right on the money for 6 O'Clock hold.

    I did some rapid fire on a B27 target at 30 feet. I completely lose the black sights against a black background, but I was able to put most of the rounds in the 9 ring, some rounds crept up into the 7 ring, but they were still centerline, so that would be like shooting someone right between the collar bones.

    I'm pretty happy with the gun.
     
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  2. C0untZer0

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    I didn't take a picture of my gun yet but here's a stock photo:


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  3. chicharrones

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    Congrats on getting the RM380 at such a great price! :cool:

    I like mine. I put a dash of white paint on the front sight after the first range session and I've been carrying it in a Recluse holster shortly after I got the gun back in May.

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    Weird forum tricks. The second photo shows up in the post editing window, but all I see is a red X on the actual forum post.
     
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    Are you able to draw OK from that Recluse holster?

    I've been using a DeSantis Nemesis, but I'm thinking about getting another holster. The butt of my R9 is wearing a hole in my jean pocket - just starting to. I think its the heel release actually. But anyway, I was thinking of getting a holster like the Recluse TS that comes up higher and covers more of the butt of the gun.

    On the other hand, it is cheaper to just buy a new pair of jeans than buy a holster.
     
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    Yes, I can draw from it easily. The holster is essentially only sewed together at it's bottom 1/3rd. The sides spread open easily when I slide my hand onto the gun.

    Also true that a pair of jeans are cheaper than one Recluse holster, but how many pair of jeans are you going to need to make it to washing day? :D
     
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    I purchased these jeans in August, the only worn spot on them is the right pocket

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    I'm thinking, if I buy a new pair of jeans every 5 months it won't take long before I'll have a lot of jeans that are perfectly good except for a worn spot in the pocket...
     
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    Not specifically about RM380, but I dropped magazines from my Shield 45 a lot at first, especially shooting with the left hand. But this effect gradually disappeared. I think my hands got used to it and there was nothing intrinsically wrong with Shield. But I still drop mags on a Kahr P45, some more than others. That one clearly has issues. I think the barrel lug sometimes hits the mag and overcomes the latch (I can see damage on the followers). So this problem may stem from different causes.
     
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    There doesn't seem to be many people on THR that have the RM380. Maybe in time that will change.

    My RM380 is my favorite pocket gun right now. It's not quite as small as a Ruger LCP, but the RM sure shoots softer than one and has a little more grip for the hand. Both on the grip frame and on the slide. The slide of the RM sure adds to the ease of racking the slide, too.
     
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    Even on the Remington forum there is not many comments on the RM380. Mine is boringly reliable. When something works and there is so little aftermarket addons there is not much to say other than, it fires every kind of 380 ammo I've put in it. Approaching 500 rounds !
     
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    I think there are some people who absolutely HATE Remington at this point and bash them at every opportunity. I've heard people lambaste the gun so severely I can't see how they're talking about the same gun that Karl and Eric Rohrbaugh designed. The RM380 is just not that different from the original R380.

    Someone on another forum said that the RM380 was giving slide bite to shooters at media day at SHOT so bad that Remington had a pile of bandaids in their booth?

    Sounds a little suspect.

    I snug my hand up pretty high on the RM380 and I haven't gotten slide bite from it.
     
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    The hate of The Freedom Group flows freely every time. But there was a credible report about the disassembly pin jumping out because an owner of RM380 pulled the slide slowly while holding the gun sideways. Normally the friction keeps it in. They didn't think that one through. On Glock 42, for example, the locking block pin has a groove into which the slide stop lever slides and locks it in place. On AR-15 a spring goes into a similar groove. A pin sitting under friction is okay on a boutique gun like Rohrbaugh, but Remington is discovering that when you make hundreds of thousands of them, things aren't as simple.
     
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    I want this to be such a good Gun. I hope there is more positive reviews on it as they are coming around more often.
    I carry a tcp380 in the summer months and although I have no issue with it at all, I would like to get a USA made .380 close to it's size.
     
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    I heard the scare story about the disassembly pin and shot three mags full of ammo with the left side of the pistol facing the ground and my otherwise flawless RM 380 did exactly nothing but shoot, no pin loss, no slide flying to China, no Mikey with big tears. My pistol has a difficult trigger to get accustomed to but serves as a truck gun and gets a lot of shooting time as a result.
     
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    I've had two LCP's, a P3AT, and 3-4 P-32 KelTek's. They all served as good pocket guns but the RM380 is the easiest to rack the slide and fairly soft shooter, certainly less recoil than the above mentioned 380's. It is a little thicker but I can shot 50 rounds per range trip and never did that with my other pocket pistols. May buy a second one!
     
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    Agree with Lincen, the pistol is a soft shooter in .380, very much unlike my P3AT which is a " shoot only if ya gotta" pistol. Not quite as nice as my Sig P238's but still ok.
     
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    The RM380 works. I have found it to be reliable, smooth operating.

    The takedown/unlock pin doesn't come loose unless you tilt the gun left side down and rack it quite slowly. The manual notes this, and as with all my new guns I handle them for familiarity. I got used to it and don't even think about it. About the only real issue for me has been my tendency to squeeze harder as the trigger breaks, raising the muzzle a little. As a result it shoots high for me. I'm working on it.
     
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    I've held the RM380 left side facing down - parallel to the ground - and racked the pistol to eject a round and I haven't had the pin drop, I've held it left side facing down - parallel to the ground - and racked the pistol to load a round and I haven't had the pin drop, I've locked the slide back, held the pistol with the left side facing down, released the slide with the stop lever and I haven't had the pin drop. If I turn the pistol to the left and manually pull the slide back very slowly the pin does drop. I didn't shoot the RM380 sideways gangsta style to further test it because...

    Well, because its stupid.

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    Interesting. I haven't experienced that and neither have the other two people that have fired my RM380.
     
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    Grease also helps to keep the pin in place when moving the slide slowly.

    Otherwise, RM380 owners learn to rack the slide quickly which doesn't give the pin a chance to move whether the gun is held sideways or not. There was a little instruction sheet about that topic on top of my RM380 when I opened the box provided by Remington.
     
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    Just a ditto on liking my RM380. A dab of grease on the takedown pin keeps mine in place -- and the same design didn't draw the hate when it was a near $1000 Rorbaugh design.

    Reliable, soft shooting, easy to rack. It's in rotation for pocket carry with my LCP & P3AT's.
     
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    You know, since the RM380 is a little larger than other pocket pistols, I sure would like to see a 7-round magazine extension made for it.
     
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    One of my LGSs has one and I looked at it the other day. Nice pistol, but the trigger on that one was extremely heavy. I hope it was just that one example. How is yours?
     
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    The RM 380 trigger works like a double action only revolver. The RM380 is a double strike capable gun, due to the fact the hammer rests on the slide and is fully cocked with each pull of the trigger.

    Other pocket guns like the LCP and Glocks have semi-cocked actions, which lessens the trigger pull and weight, but those guns are not double strike capable guns.

    The bottom line is, due to the full stroke hammer cocking trigger, the RM380 has a longer and heavier trigger pull than many other pocket guns.
     
  25. C0untZer0

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    I know the pin doesn't drop with the R9, I have to push it out with a toothpick, I'm not sure it needed to be pushed out of the R380.

    As far as size, they designed the R9 as small as they could and still have it reliably cycle 9mm. Then sometime later, they decided to chamber it in 380 ACP. They never set out to create an ultra-small 380, they would have basically been re-creating the Seacamp, which I don't think they had any interest in doing.

    The trigger on the RM380 has gotten significantly better after dry-firing it and putting 150 rounds through it. I have a friend who has a Nano and he hates the trigger on my R9, he also hates Kahr triggers so... to each his own.
     
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