Revised Ohio CCW Bill may be signed.

[Ebbtide]

Douglas Clifton, Editor; Robert M. Long, VP; Breny W. Larkin Editorial page Director; and Alex Machaskee, President; singed off on the editorial page of 1-8-04 Plain Dealer (see "Very well Concealed").

"Since Taft chooses to hide behind journalist on this vital public-records matter, it is this newspaper's intention to obtain this information and publish it. Our readers deserve to know the identites of those who obtain permits to carry their guns in public".

Sorry, no link.

ehenz

Edit: I found a link: http://www.cleveland.com/editorials/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1073557994158462.xml

 

[dubb-1]

Ohioans, please...

Remember that the fight is not over. If the antis get 193,740 signatures from 44 of our 88 counties, the CCW law will be forced onto the November ballot. Be aware of how you represent the cause when you engage in CCW discussions. The last thing we want to do is to scare anyone that may be "on the fence" in regard to CCW. We have to come across calmer, more understanding, and smarter than our anti-gun counterparts.

Thank you!

Damian

 

[Kharn]

Taft Signs CCW Bill, another article

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Governor Taft has signed the bill that will allow Ohioans to carry concealed weapons.

The Senate approved the amended bill 25-8 and the House vote was 69-24 Wednesday.

The bill marks the first time the Legislature and the governor's office have agreed to a deal after a decade of debate on the highly charged issue.

Ohioans who apply for permits to carry concealed weapons would have to pay a fee, undergo background checks and be trained in the use of a weapon.

The bill also makes the names of permit-holders in each county available to reporters who ask a sheriff's department for the names.

Taft's insistence on this provision derailed the bill late last year.

Congrats, and good luck dealing with the anti's signature-gathering efforts.

Kharn

 

[AJ Dual]

Good!

WI's veto override session is probably next week. We have the votes we need if nobody defects, or can be bought off by .gov Doyle.

Hopefully this, and the success in the New Mexico Supreme Court will give Wisconsin's legislators a needed push.

If Missiouri's judges have a shred of logic and honesty, the outcome looks good there too, so here's keeping my fingers crossed for them as well.

 

[joelr]

Singing:

"It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a lovely day in the neighborhood."

Sheesh. Look at the last year; Minnesota, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Ohio, Missouri. Granted, the Missouri law won't go into effect until the Missouri Supreme Court throws out the challenge, and it's going to be close on the Wisconsin veto overrride (it could go either way, which, me being a cynic, means that I think it'll not go through)....

But, sheesh....

There's not much more progress to be made on "shall issue" laws, simply because we've come so far. What's left? New York, New Jersey, California, and a handful of small states.

 

[G1FAL]

If I read the bill correctly, you must have been released from Active service with-in the last 6 years to meet the prior military requirement. Your DD-214 should indicate any arms training (the ten shots in Navy boot camp don't count) you had.

Got out at the end of 2001. So OK there.

And the DD214 doesnt list what arms training you've had, only what level you qualified at, and that is in the "Awards" box. For instance, if you scored Expert rifle, it will say "Rifle Expert Badge" along with Sea Service Deployment ribbon, National Defense Medal, Purple Heart Medal, whatever you got while you were in.

If it listed every weapon that was trained with, an infantryman's DD214 would be taken up halfway with just weapons. M16A2, M9, M240, M249 SAW, SMAW, AT-4, mortars, M2 .50 cal, knife, hands, e-tool, tent stakes, rocks, helmet.....

 

[mbott]

Earliest that permits are issued:

Signed yesterday, so we have to wait 90 days for it to become law. Then, the Attorney General and the Ohio Peace Officer Training commission have another 45 days to get all the training material, forms, disclosures, etc developed and distributed. So, were at least 135 days, or to about May 23rd, before the first application can be handed out. That's when the mad rush begins. I'm sure the system will be taxed to the limit for the first couple of weeks (at the least) so, I bet that the first license won't be issued until mid- to late-June.

Oh well, we've waited this long.

--
Mike

 

[joelr]

Yeah, but if I'm reading the law correctly, your out-of-state permits will be valid in 90 days -- and even if you don't have one, you can probably get one by then. Try Florida -- they accept NRA courses, and you can do the whole thing by mail.

 

[mbott]

joelr,

I don't think it will be that fast, based on the following out of HB 12, but if I'm wrong and you're right, I really have no problem with that.

Sec. 109.69. (A)(1) The attorney general shall negotiate and enter into a reciprocity agreement with any other license-issuing state under which a license to carry a concealed handgun that is issued by the other state is recognized in this state if the attorney general determines that both of the following apply:
(a) The eligibility requirements imposed by that license-issuing state for that license are substantially comparable to the eligibility requirements for a license to carry a concealed handgun issued under section 2923.125 of the Revised Code.
(b) That license-issuing state recognizes a license to carry a concealed handgun issued under section 2923.125 of the Revised Code.
(2) A reciprocity agreement entered into under division (A)(1) of this section also may provide for the recognition in this state of a license to carry a concealed handgun issued on a temporary or emergency basis by the other license-issuing state, if the eligibility requirements imposed by that license-issuing state for the temporary or emergency license are substantially comparable to the eligibility requirements for a license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun issued under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code and if that license-issuing state recognizes a temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun issued under section 2923.1213 of the Revised Code.
(3) The attorney general shall not negotiate any agreement with any other license-issuing state under which a license to carry a concealed handgun that is issued by the other state is recognized in this state other than as provided in divisions (A)(1) and (2) of this section.

 

[joelr]

Alas, I think that I was wrong and you're right.

Still, it's a huge step forward for Ohio; congratulations to all.