RIA, Norinco, Or Llama- which used 1911?
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jcwit
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I own a Llama and am more than satified with it, saying that I also own a Kimber S/S custom and am more than satified with it also. Of the 3 you mention I would go with the RIA, I do not have one but most seem satified, parts will always be available as its a 1911 clone. Llama is no longer in business.
There's my 2 cents.
BTW, I also have a Springfield S/S gi spec, purchased new for $300, just haven't ever shot it, so no opinion.
There's my 2 cents.
BTW, I also have a Springfield S/S gi spec, purchased new for $300, just haven't ever shot it, so no opinion.
of the 3 you've listed, the Norinco has the best metallurgy and would be the best base gun for a custom build
Old Shooter
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I've never had a Norinco but internet wisdom indicates they are well made and use very good steel.
I have a LLama and trying to get it to shoot reliably is driving me to drink, it is an older model though.
I have a RIA and it is like the Energizer bunny, it just keeps going and going and going.
Myself, I would go for the RIA.
I have a LLama and trying to get it to shoot reliably is driving me to drink, it is an older model though.
I have a RIA and it is like the Energizer bunny, it just keeps going and going and going.
Myself, I would go for the RIA.
Full Metal Jacket
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the best metallurgy of the three in the poll is without a doubt norinco.
jcwit
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Some do but not all.
LiveLife
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+1 for Norinco. Back in 1995, at the advisement of seasoned USPSA match shooters, I built my first match 1911 on Norinco using Wilson Combat components. Shot very accurate.
If buying used, I guess it would depend on the price.
How about adding RRA (Rock River Arm) in addition to RIA?
If buying used, I guess it would depend on the price.
How about adding RRA (Rock River Arm) in addition to RIA?
zombie1210
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Dont think junk just because the Norinco is Chinese. Good steel. Good steel.
surfinUSA
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Save your money and just drink. Llamas are notorious garbage.
People seem to Like the RIA, but given the oppertunity I would get a norinco, and I would have if the pawn shop guy didn't think the one he was selling was made of gold (I think he was actually asking the list price they sold new for and just wouldn't come down enough to be reasonable. I hope he has it forever).
jcwit
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Do you or have you ever owned one or is this just an opinion? What do you base your conclusion on?
I had a friend who was in a pinch and needed to sell a Llama. I bought it for a good price and it has been issue free through over 1000 rounds. Not the most accurate 1911 I own, but not the junk you read about on the net either. I still voted RIA because I think the fit and finish is better. Never owned or shot a Norinco...
Why used? Why not just buy a NEW RIA? The GI model can be had for around $400 and the tactical for $50-$100 more. Given your choices it doesn't make sense to buy used when new ones are that inexpensive.
In fact, Bud's has GI's for $399, and tacticals for $499 for brushed nickel and $489 for two-tone. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/21_876
In fact, Bud's has GI's for $399, and tacticals for $499 for brushed nickel and $489 for two-tone. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/21_876
Ala Dan
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I voted for the Norinco~! A fell'a I know has one that has been flawless
from day one. Too bad that old man Clinton banned their importation~!
from day one. Too bad that old man Clinton banned their importation~!
Zach S
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If given a choice, I'd go with a used Norinco over a new RIA.
However RIAs are readily available, norcs aren't.
However RIAs are readily available, norcs aren't.
IIRC, RRAs cost between $1500 and $2500...
surfinUSA
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Luigi, Thanks for you reply so I didn't have to. JCwit obviously hasn't been around firearms long enough to know these things and should probably spend his hard earned money to learn what we already know.
Hey, If we're lucky mr. jcwit will buy us a beer rather than waste his money on a LLama because we we kind enough to take the time to post what ***** Llamas are and save him some money.
Hey, If we're lucky mr. jcwit will buy us a beer rather than waste his money on a LLama because we we kind enough to take the time to post what ***** Llamas are and save him some money.
Onward Allusion
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I had a Norinco. It was dependable, not very accurate (but I think it was the shooter), and was a great gun to build on.
I never shot a RIA but heard good things about the more recent production.
I never shot a RIA but heard good things about the more recent production.
jcwit
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Being as you do not know me or the collection I have you are speaking without knowing any facts or kinowledge. I suppose my Kimber's, and Springfield's are of no account because I have had a good experience with my Llama. Also my collection of S&W wheel guns in 38 spec and 357 and .22 rimfire. Of course I also have a number which I'm sure you will not talk highly of as they are made by Taurus.
As far as being around firearms for any length of time again it obvious you no nothing about what you're talking about as you me not at all, we have never met. More than likely I've "been around" firearms longer than you've been alive, but of course I'm not sure about that, it's just a guess.
BTW, you have yet to answer the questions I asked, Mr. surfinUSA
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Norinco, very high quality steel, no cast or MIM parts, like the RIA.
But FYI the grip bushings and grip bushing screws aren’t standard, and each bushing is staked 6 times, so they need to be drilled out, then rethreaded.
So if you want to put slim bushings in consider that.
Other than that everything is GI spec.
But FYI the grip bushings and grip bushing screws aren’t standard, and each bushing is staked 6 times, so they need to be drilled out, then rethreaded.
So if you want to put slim bushings in consider that.
Other than that everything is GI spec.
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