Rifle cartridge choice, because?

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Have a 98 Mauser needful of a new barrel. Ordered an 8x57 #2 1/2 from ER Shaw this week, mainly because the only non wildcat reamers I have on hand are .270 and 8x57. I already have 2 98s(and an M70) in .270. Always wanted a heavier barreled 8x57 anyway.

Now if I DIDN'T already have the reamer, I may have gone another direction. I could be wrong, but I figure, I have the rifles I use regularly and they seem to pretty much stay the same these days. Buliding another one is more just about building another one, no so much needing another one. Since this will use up the last of my Mauser parts, I doubt I will do any more.

What reasons affect your choice of cartridges?
 
I always look at Task/Purpose.

Then the context for use, that helps me define what I'm really after. I've honestly never wanted a caliber just "because". The gun has always had a purpose that the caliber enabled.

It's just how I think of things.

Reamers can be rented and even when bought are only about $200 when you buy them and rentals are around $50. I have a couple for my wildcats, just so I can re-barrel with the same specs. Bottom line is, I wouldn't let what I have on hand determine my caliber.
 
Have a 98 Mauser needful of a new barrel. Ordered an 8x57 #2 1/2 from ER Shaw this week, mainly because the only non wildcat reamers I have on hand are .270 and 8x57. I already have 2 98s(and an M70) in .270. Always wanted a heavier barreled 8x57 anyway.

Now if I DIDN'T already have the reamer, I may have gone another direction. I could be wrong, but I figure, I have the rifles I use regularly and they seem to pretty much stay the same these days. Buliding another one is more just about building another one, no so much needing another one. Since this will use up the last of my Mauser parts, I doubt I will do any more.

What reasons affect your choice of cartridges?

The 8X57 is a cool cartridge!

I have a couple of reasons for my choices:
1. I fits my needs. IE, Short Range Benchrest will be a PPC or BR. Long Range Benchrest will be something like a 6.5-284. Deer out to 400 yards will be something in the 308 class, Ect,ect
2. Because it tickles my fancy at the moment!
 
What reasons affect your choice of cartridges?
Ha! I've said about a hundred times that I got myself a 308 Norma Magnum when I retired because when I was 16, my then girlfriend's dad had one (he even let me shoot it once) and I'd wanted one like it ever since. It made my wife (of 50 years now) smile that I remembered more about a rifle and cartridge than I remembered about the girlfriend who's dad owned it.;)
 
Ha! I've said about a hundred times that I got myself a 308 Norma Magnum when I retired because when I was 16, my then girlfriend's dad had one (he even let me shoot it once) and I'd wanted one like it ever since. It made my wife (of 50 years now) smile that I remembered more about a rifle and cartridge than I remembered about the girlfriend who's dad owned it.;)


If she had done more memorable things, she may not have been an EX
 
There is absolutely no logical reason to have even 1/10th of the cartridges that exist. But then, there is little about shooting that is logical.

I got a higher end .22 because I crave accuracy. I got a .223 varmint rifle because it’s super common, accurate, and doesn’t toast barrels. I got. .204 varmint rifle to go with it because it duplicates a .22-250 with way less blast and recoil. I got my 7 mag because it was the chambering they had in stock in the rifle I wanted and it was WAY cheap, and works for everything from antelope to moose and elk.
 
I had to think your question over a bit, since all of my recent firearm purchases have been focused on the rifle and action rather than the chambering.

For me these days it's more about what chamberings I might avoid buying a rifle in. I don't do varmint shooting, so other than .22 Hornet and .223 Remington I shy away from smaller-bore high velocity cartridges. Generally my interest begins at around 7mm -- no great reason, it's just that I haven't done anything in the 6's yet and I'd have to buy another supply of bullets if I did. A nice Mannlicher-Schoenauer carbine would change my position about the 6.5's in a heartbeat, though.

I'm also not too interested in the belted magnum hard-kickers. About the heaviest cartridge I shoot regularly is 45-70. If someone gave me a double rifle (I could never afford to buy one), I might also learn to love a shoulder bruiser.

As to what cartridges I do like, check out the end of this short video showing the bulk of my reloading die collection:



Oh, and any good .22 LR will always peak my interest.
 
Do I find it interesting or does it explore a theory? can I afford it? Do I have a use/need for it?

That's basically how I look at all my new additions, and pretty much how I rank the importance of each criteria.

Want is a given.....
 
I like the old .308 caliber rifles because of component/data/projectile availability, because it seems to work really well and because I started investing in my rifles and reloading equipment the same year the 6.5 Creedmoor came out. Today, I would probably opt to go the 6.5 AR10 route but it's not worth it for me to switch over to another caliber now. I mean I could but I don't want to because I doubt I would see enough benefit to justify it. I like 30/06 and 30 Nosler and one or both of those would be the caliber I would invest in at this time if I was inclined to because I am not in love with belted magnum cartridges. 30/06 speaks for itself. I have one but it's nothing too special. 30 Nosler seems like a great non belted alternative to 300 Win Mag or Weatherby (better supported than the RUM perhaps) and I struggle with thoughts of buying one a couple times a week. Plus, it's .308 cal so lots of projectiles out there to choose from.
 
There is absolutely no logical reason to have even 1/10th of the cartridges that exist.
Exactly!:thumbup:
I got my 7 mag because it was the chambering they had in stock in the rifle I wanted and it was WAY cheap, and works for everything from antelope to moose and elk.
And yet another exactly!:thumbup:
My wife shoots a highly customized Model 70, 7mm Rem Mag for those "exact" reasons: First, my wife wanted a "custom" rifle of her own and the barely used Model 70 she found (and got for a song) just happened to be chambered for the 7mm Rem Mag. And second, for mule deer (and even elk if my wife gets a chance to shoot one) we load that 7mm Rem Mag more like a 7mm-08 "+P", or a 280 Remington than a full-house 7mm Remington Magnum. However, if my wife draws a pronghorn tag, we can load it with some more streamlined (maybe some boattail) bullets. OR, if she ever draws a once-in-a-lifetime Idaho moose tag, we could load her 7mm Rem Mag with some big ol', well constructed 175gr bullets.
I think the 7mm Remington Mag is a very versatile big game cartridge, but the truth is, the reason my wife has one was more about "the luck of the draw" than it was about "choice" when she bought it. On the other hand, my wife has always been lucky. I mean, she's married to me, isn't she?:D
 
Ha! I've said about a hundred times that I got myself a 308 Norma Magnum when I retired because when I was 16, my then girlfriend's dad had one (he even let me shoot it once) and I'd wanted one like it ever since. It made my wife (of 50 years now) smile that I remembered more about a rifle and cartridge than I remembered about the girlfriend who's dad owned it.;)
Girlfriends come and go, but a rifle....
 
The 8X57 is a cool cartridge!

I have a couple of reasons for my choices:
1. I fits my needs. IE, Short Range Benchrest will be a PPC or BR. Long Range Benchrest will be something like a 6.5-284. Deer out to 400 yards will be something in the 308 class, Ect,ect
2. Because it tickles my fancy at the moment!
It is easy to understand. I got the urge for a 338 Federal, ordered one, shot a couple of deer with it and sold it. It was a cool round but I could never get within 150 FPS of Federal factory rounds. Everything was compressed loads, and I don't really need a 200 gr bullet for anything in North Arkansas.
 
Girlfriends come and go, but a rifle....
Come to think of it, that girlfriend (when I was 16) was gone before I turned 17. But I'm 73 now, and I paid for my custom 308 Norma with my first two Social Security checks - when I turned 62.
On the other hand, my now girlfriend (my wife) has been with me since I was 23. But that probably has something to do with the fact that she likes guns, and has as many of them as I do.:thumbup:
 
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I chose .270 Win. in 1993 for my first big game hunting rifle based on my father's advice to pick something different from his 30-06 Springfield and flatter shooting. My farthest shot ever taken in a hunting situation has been around 140 yards... Now, don't you laugh at my father, he is a great man. I chose a .223 Remington/5.56mm NATO a few years ago for target shooting because I thought I would reload for it and it would be cheap to shoot. I have not started reloading yet, but I paid the price for premium match ammo, pretty close to 30-06 match ammo prices when thinking about it. It's okay, you can laugh now. I bought a 30-06 Springfield barrel for my Encore because it was the only chambering available at the only store which carried any Encore barrels relatively close to me at the time, it is a decision I have never regretted: it shoots! I chose a 30-06 Springfield CZ 557 because I realized 30-06 could be soft on the shoulder with the Encore and it does everything I need in terms of hunting and shooting: cheap soviet ammo is available, accurate match ammo is available, hunting loads are everywhere (usually). I briefly owned a 30-30 because I didn't have a classic lever action and it seemed appropriate to own one, just long enough to realize I had become less of an iron sights shooter while getting older (I can still shoot better than many -it seems some guys could not hit the wide side of a barn at ten feet using irons if their life dependend on it- with iron sights during the brightest portion of the day, but it got a lot harder than before and I lost some of my ease, yet I truly enjoyed shooting my old BB rifle found in my dad's basement yesterday with my nine years old heir); a Model 94 just had to be in 30-30 in my obtuse mind. I bought .22 LR rifles because I can afford to shoot them like I want and I also think it is an appropriate round for beginners to learn shooting ; I like to bring non shooters, anti-gun people when I have a chance, at the range (already converted three persons to shooting), and most of all, because it is the cartridge I first shot as a kid and after all these years, I still enjoy to shoot it because it is fun. Now, I got more educated on the subject of firearms and cartridges since I joined THR, and it has changed both my perceptions and my reflexions on the subject. The last rifle I bought is a 30-06 ; after having thought about many, many other possibilities, it does not reflect the same minding as the first one. It is just funny to me that I ended up with a 30-06 after thinking about it so much, weighting pros and cons of quite a few possibilities! I have come to the conclusion that many cartridges are interchangeable in real life even if they do differ a bit when we look closely at the numbers. Usefulness, capability and practicality are important to me. When contemplating the idea of another rifle, which might be the last, I have to move on to either something significantly bigger than 30-06 (375, 416...) or a replacement for my .223 (painted her nails (trigger job), dyed her hair (good enough scope), got her bigger... wood, and still not loving her) to justify another buy. It will take a while, so I have all the time to think about it. Also, the utilitarian portion of my acquisitions having ended with the second 30-06, my next rifle will be blued steel and walnut, which might impact the chambering availability, hence its choice.
 
I guess the flip side of this OP is why do you not have or not like certain cartridges? I know there was a thread on this a few months or years back, but I still think about it from time to time.

My 7 mag is a very limited edition Browning X-Bolt, exactly what you was looking for. It’s a Shot Show limited edition with a curly maple stock. Dealer had it in stock a long time, and I ended up getting it for $40 under dealer cost. They had another in .270 which I would not have bought at 1/2 the price.

When I first shot centerfire it was my uncle’s .270. He had super hot hand loads, it was light, and that thing kicked. Bad. Used it for groundhogs. Worked well, but it was punishing. That, and Jack O’Conner’s incessant chirping about the .270 every article ruined me on the .270.
 
I pick the bullet that I want to shoot and then pick a cartridge to propel it with. I don't buy factory ammo so I don't mind having obscure stuff or having to form brass but I prefer cartridges with commonly available brass or that are formed from commonly available brass.
 
I pick the bullet that I want to shoot and then pick a cartridge to propel it with. I don't buy factory ammo so I don't mind having obscure stuff or having to form brass but I prefer cartridges with commonly available brass or that are formed from commonly available brass.

That's kind of my approach as well.

Recently I was looking for a new hunting rifle.

I wanted either a 6.5 or 7mm bore so I could use either lighter varmint bullets, or heavier bullets for larger deer and some lower drag bullets if I want to prepare for some longer range hunting.

My requirements for the rifle were to be on the lighter side, not necessarily a Featherlite, but nothing anyone would consider "too heavy". Other than that, something with a decent trigger, a 22" or longer barrel, and a locking bolt of at all possible. No real preference for blind/hinged/DBM. Same with metal finish or wood/synthetic stock.

I finally found a deal on a 280Rem Browning A-Bolt I. It checked all my requirements and preferences and between the aftermarket finish and recoil pad, with the Talley lightweight mounts and Leupold Vari-X IIc 3-9x, it was ready to go as soon as I got it home and looks like a pretty nice package as well.
 
For just practical, all-around confidence, the .308. For fun and nostalgia, the 45-70 and the .45 Colt. A deer killing machine (absolute cheating), the 6.8 SPC.
 
I chose a 30-06 to buy as a hunting rifle, an older 98 Mauser that I lost to a gunsmith, I brought it in to get drilled and tapped and I was the one that got drilled and tapped. He gave me an estimate of about $100 +/- and about 7 months later he told me it was ready to pick up and was going to be $400+. To spare you all the boring details I wound up paying $100 for the rifle to begin with and wasn't about to get $500+ into that rifle and wound up forfeiting it.

I wanted the '06 for the versatility and ammo availability but then after losing the Mauser was about the time the Ruger American came out so I was hunting for one in .308 and hunting season was drawing near and I found a compact stainless and set my heart on it but the only one my LGS had was in 7-08 so I went against my wishes and wound up with that and have no reason not to like 7-08, just would have preferred the more common .308 because it's easily found.

After some time, even though I didn't "need" another hunting rifle I wanted something to level up in quality and was looking for an M77, wasn't set on a caliber but I wound up getting a nice Browning A-Bolt passed down to me in .270win so the cartridge kind of got sorted out for me and have no reason not to like .270win and is more than enough for anything I'm likely to hunt at the ranges I hunt at.

Oddly though, right after I got that A-Bolt I found one in a gun shop in great shape for $500 chambered in 7mmRM and I wanted to buy it but it didn't make much sense to at that point. I would have just preferred another 7mm over the .270 but not for any logical reason, like I said, the .270 will be more than adequate....

I like listening and reading from the guys who are really into their load data, loading benches, do alot of developing and working up loads and stuff.... it's interesting discussion. I also like hearing from the guys who've bought the same box of core lokts in the same weight for the same model 70 they've had for 50 years and never changed a thing or even considered another cartridge and fill their tags every year....
 
Various chamberings seem very cool because guys used them in “Combat”, and “the Magnificent Seven” in the 1960s. They were some of my first movies and shows which can be remembered.

If it was used by “Kirby, Cage, Sgt. Saunders”, McQueen, Bronson and Coburn (also- his knife) plus Brynner, quite frankly, they are exciting cartridges and guns.
Not embarrassed to admit it….not one bit.

Of course some other cartridges have utilitarian reasons.
For me most of it is relative cost.
 
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