Rifle Purchase: Remington, Savage, or Other?

[Boba Fett]

So I'm considering a new rifle purchase. This is going to be an all purpose rile.

So I want it to hunt with, to have some long range target fun, and to be a SHTF sniper rifle.

After a lengthy bit of research and consideration of several factors (primarily performance and SHTF availability), I've decide on the 308 Win. I did consider the 30-06 Springfield and 300 Win Mag. Because the the recoil I've heard about, the 300 Win Mag is out. The 30-06 seems pretty good from what I've read, but I'm still leaning toward the 308 at this point as a better all purpose round.

Now came the decision of which rifle to use. Some restrictions I put on the rifle were: don't want any silver flashy stuff; just an all black rifle (obviously I could change the stock, but if I didn't need to, it would be nice). Also needs to be at least 24" and preferably 26."

So, I've narrowed it down to the following:

The Savage 10FP LE

The Remington 700 Police

The Savage Arms 10 FCP

The Remington 700 SPS


Recommendations, reviews, orther rifles I should consider?

 

[RonE]

700 SPS Get it in .300 Win Mag.

 

[WardenWolf]

Either Savage. Savages are 1 MOA or better out of the box. They're a much better gun for your money. I'd recommend the 10FP, though.

 

[MCMXI]

None of the above ... I'd buy the Remington XCR Tactical Long Range in .300 Win Mag.. It's also offered in .308 Win but I'm not such a big fan of the 1:12 twist rate. Anyway, here are the highlights. The B&C stock and TriNyte coated fluted stainless barrel are VERY nice features. I read the review of the 10FCP and the McMillan stock doesn't have a full-length aluminum bedding block ... what a POS!! :banghead: Other than that it's probably a decent rifle for the money. I have a Remington 700 Police in .300 Win Mag and I couldn't stand the stock. The only part of that rifle that I'm still using is the action (now trued) and bolt (now trued) which are excellent.


Remington Model 700 XCR Long Range Tactical

New Tactical Bell & Carlson stock in OD Green w/black webbing

Full-length aluminum bedding block,
tactical beavertail fore-end and recessed “thumbhook” behind pistol grip for off-the-bench shooting performance

Black TriNyte® Corrosion Control System over 416 stainless steel for uncompromised strength and corrosion/abrasion resistance

26" varmint-contour 416 stainless steel barreled action with dish-style target crown, drilled and tapped for scope mounts

40-X externally adjustable trigger

Hinged floorplate magazine, Dual front swivel studs and rear stud

Barrel is free-floating with LTR-style fluting

Savages are 1 MOA or better out of the box

I've never had a Remington that wasn't sub MOA either, but you may have a point about the "value for money" unless you're talking about the Savage stocks that don't have a full-length aluminum bedding block!

 

[plinky]

I have a 700 SPS V .308 that shoots well, especially for the money. If you get one, you might resign yourself to upgrading the stock. Some folks get them to shoot well in the plastic stock but I wouldn't want to bet on it. Mine has shot 1/2" groups but it comes and goes. Same goes for the plastic stocked Savages.

I wanted to try a similar Savage so I had my dealer order one. 12 FV was not available so I went with the 10FP. After waiting a couple weeks (with my money down) I got the word that the 10FP was not available either. The dealer uses a service that checks six distributors' inventory so I guess a Savage heavy barreled .308 is hard to get. I took another Rem 700 that was sitting on the rack for less money.

From looking at pictures and specs, it appears that the Savages have a little heavier barrel than the SPS Varmint. Can't confirm that yet though.

If I decide to try a Savage again I think I'll build it up from a cheap Stevens.

 

[deerhunter61]

If I were you I would check out CZ

 

[berettashotgun]

Every deer I have shot for years ( and coyotes,hogs,paper targets ) never new they were such sissys -
they fell victim to a NON "full length bedding block" stocked rifle.


Every rifle you have listed is about the same; I bought my first savage this year, a muzzleloader w/accue trigger - I love the trigger, but it looks funky. I will keep. excellent trigger.
Been using a remy 700 for years, or a Winchester,

 

[jmr40]

For an all purpose rifle the 24"-26" barrel is too long. It would be what you would want on a dedicated long range gun. A 22" or even a 20" barrel in 308 would be plenty for all around use.

Nothing wrong with Remington or Savage but I would look at the shorter versions such as the Light Tactical rifle from Remington. Savage offers a 20" version of their rifle as well.

I would also look at the Tikka. They offer a Tactical and Varmit version that comes with a 5 round detachable mag and in my experience will be lighter as well as more accurate than either Remington or Savage.

 

[JDGray]

Love me Savage 10FP, just dont care for the Choate Folder. My Stepdad is a rifle nut, and was very impressed with the accuracy, he is now sold on Savage! We took turns putting shot after shot in the same hole, and he just shook his head The factory plastic stocks leave you searching for aftermarket, however the Choates are very well built, just don't get the folder.

 

[CZ223]

I am a big Savge fan

so, of the guns on your list, the choice is easy, get the 10 FCP. I was looking at one recently with the HS Precision stalk on it and loved it but, money just won't allow for a 10th Savage right now. The gun that you might want to add to list however is the FN Police/sniper. I have heard lots of good about these. The guys over at snipershide.com will be able to tell you more. Good luck.

 

[interlock]

i would go with the remmy 700 sps. buy a decent set of mounts and scopes and plenty of ammunition. Get out there and shoot it. the most limitting factor with accuracy is the shooter.

interlock

 

[fitz47]

my last two new rifles are savages they are good shooters

 

[stalkingbear]

I was FORCED to vote "other" as you left out MY personal favorite-Browning A-bolt/X-bolt.

 

[The Swede]

I own a Remington 700 PSS. It is way too heavy for a hunting rifle. The 700 Police is the same as the PSS. Too heavy may be an understatement.

 

[jerkface11]

Savage. If you want to change anything about the rifle you don't need a gunsmith. Everything on the gun is DIY.

 

[MCMXI]

Every deer I have shot for years ( and coyotes,hogs,paper targets ) never new they were such sissys -
they fell victim to a NON "full length bedding block" stocked rifle.

Who's talking about hunting where 10" groups at 100 yards will often get the job done? None of these rifles are marketed primarily as hunting rifles. They all fall under the "Precision Shooting/Tactical" category and therefore accuracy should be paramount and not secondary. Selling a rifle with a fancy synthetic stock and implying that it's "tactical" but not having a full-length bedding block is one thing .... CHEAP!! In a hunting rifle where weight savings are important and sub MOA accuracy is less important then I can absolutely see the point of not having a solid chunk of aluminum running the length of the stock. If a buyer's intention is to change the stock anyway then who cares. However, the Remington XCR LRT does have a full-length bedding block in the B&C stock, it sells for $1200 (similar to the Savage), is stainless AND fluted, has a GREAT trigger and will easily shoot sub MOA. That would be my choice ... in fact, I'm going to order one this year since I don't have a light-weight "tactical" bolt action these days.

 

[dagger dog]

I voted the Rem, because of your requirement of not having to change out the stock which on most Savages is pretty CHEEEEEP!

Can't knock the action on the Savage bbest out of the box rifle going!

 

[Big Bill]

Ruger M77 Mark II - I'm surprised Ruger wasn't a choice.

 

[Legionnaire]

I'm a Rem 700 fan, but the PSS/Police is waaay too heavy for a general purpose/hunting rifle. I voted 700 SPS, but for a GP, I'd opt for a BDL in .30-06.

 

[CB900F]

Fella's;

I voted "other". I'm quite happily boycotting Remington going into the fourth decade & would hate to break a good string of trying to deprive them of income.

Seems to me that Tikka meets all your requirements, I'da voted them if the choice were there.

Savage? Although my wife frequently accuses me of being one, I don't shoot them. Which is proof positive I have some standards. Low standards, but nonetheless.

900F

 

[jerkface11]

You're too good to shoot a Savage? Oddly I didn't notice you taking part in the postal match last summer. Maybe your superior rifle wasn't up to it?

 

[CB900F]

Fella's;

Woo-hoo, if jumpin' to a conclusion was a Olympic event, I know where the gold medal's goin'!

Of course, I did have a Savage, did shoot it as a matter of fact. Have stated that before on this very site too. Don't have the Savage anymore though.

Now, let's all hide 'round the corner & watch & see what incredible statements can be produced from this here post. Y'all.

900F

 

[22lr]

Im a nut but I like the old milsurps better if they come in the caliper you want. ive got a 1903a3 in the classic 30-06. So far I have $320 into the gun (counting the gun itself). It has a Mauser trigger guard and floorplate unit, Williams sights, and the receiver was drilled and taped. I just got a scope but its just a stopgap until I can get a better one. My next plan is to put a Richards stock on it for another $180. All in all ill end up with a $500 dollar 30-06 that will out shoot 90% of all NIB modern guns (in my humble unbiased opinion). They arnt for everyone but im the kind of guy that is much happier with a old gun with history than a NIB that looks like it was made by a drunk monkey. But that's just me and im sure there are a lot of guys who would rather have a new gun.

 

[f4t9r]

I have become a bigger Savage fan of late. Savage is a good choice I like the accu-trigger. Would be worth looking at CZ.

 

[Cover Dog]

You don't say what type of hunting you want to do with this rifle. Of the 4 you listed I would only consider the Remington 700 SPS a hunting rifle because of its weight at 7.25 lbs. The others once equipped with scope, rings, bases and ammo will all be into the 11+ lb. range. Now if it were in a caliber suitable for use on on the Big 5 that weight would be fine, but if you chasing white tails thats to heavy for me.

I don't think you can go wrong with either of the Savage rifles. Good value for the money put out.