RMR 124 grain flat point 9mm

[vaalpens]

Okay, sometime next month we will be getting 147 grain 9mm and 124 grain flat point 9mm. Also, we are expecting the 115's to be up an running again middle of next week!

Since I am planning to load 357sig within a month or so, I was wondering if RMR will have these 124gr FP bullets very soon, and if they will be usable in 357Sig.

Sorry for starting a new thread, but the original thread where the RMR 124 gr FP was mentioned RMR's own line of Thick Plated bullets is now closed.

 

[vaalpens]

I received the following response from RMR today:

From: Sales [mailto:[email protected]]

It will most likely be middle of January

 

[9mmepiphany]

Waiting with bated breath, keeps us updated if you hear more

 

[vaalpens]

Waiting with bated breath, keeps us updated if you hear more

Will do. I also asked about the price and received the following response:

They will be similar to the other 124s. The 147s will likely be about $5 more.

 

[vaalpens]

The 9mm 124 Grain RMR Thickly Plated Flat Nose bullets are now in stock.

http://shop.rmrbullets.com/9mm-124-Grain-RMR-Thickly-Plated-Flat-Nose-1000-Count-9mm-124-RMR-Flat-Nose-1000-Ct.htm

 

[Dudedog]

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9mm 124 Grain RMR Thickly Plated Flat Nose (1,000 Count)

Introducing our line of plated bullets! They have a harder lead core (11-12 BHN) than any plated bullet company that we know of. The standard plating on them is as thick or thicker than the "heavy plated" bullets from other companies. It is still a plated bullet so try to keep it within 1500 fps.

Product Type: Bullets
Caliber: 9mm
Grains / Weight: 124
Description / Style: Thickly Plated Round Nose
Quantity: 1,000
New or Pulled: New
Company: Rocky Mountain Reloading

The pisture with the link shows round nose.

PM sent to longdayjake to see what he says.
I would really like to try the flat points.

 

[Bamashooter]

Showing in stock on the website now. They do work in the 357 sig for me.

 

[Surculus]

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The picture with the link shows round nose.

They must have updated the pic then, 'cause it clearly shows truncated cone bullets now. [Not "flat nose" which would still have a rounded ogive, but correct for 9mmP. The standard Luger load was a 124gr TC; the toggle-lock recoil action of the classic Luger requires a decent recoil impulse; the usual 115gr RN bobos one finds typically don't function reliably in a Luger as a result.]

 

[vaalpens]

Showing in stock on the website now. They do work in the 357 sig for me.

That is good to hear. Can you share anything regarding your load for 357sig, like powder, could you load a COL of 1.135", any grouping test?

 

[Dudedog]

LongdayJake PMed me that the pic was wrong and they were going to fix it.
If you use the link above the pic shows round nose. (just checked 2-3-2015 19:09 PST)
Description is still wrong as well.
The pic under the link above shows what I would call truncated cone bullets.

(Which is what I am after)

 

[vaalpens]

This is the picture RMR emailed to me.

 

[Dudedog]

Cool, that's the shape I'm after

 

[longdayjake]

Sorry about this fiasco. When these came in we were at SHOT show and I did most of the updating from my phone. Right after SHOT Ryan and I flew to Conneticut to look at (insert super exciting secret here) that will be showing up sometime in April. Then we got stuck back east in the big storms. Anyway, we are working on getting the 124 FP and the 147 up and listed correctly now. We also have a lot of cheap 9mm jacketed bullets to throw up on the website. Just give me some time.

Also, I'm not sure which admin closed down the original thread. I think they must have felt I was advertising or something. I was just trying to keep all the new products and updates in one thread so as not to take up a bunch of threads to talk about it.

 

[Bamashooter]

Loading 6.6 grs. of CFEpistol. 2.5 inch groups at 15 yds. Sorry don't have a chrono. C.O.L 1.135. I have found that if I use my .40sw Lee bulge buster with the Hornady dies I don't have to lube very much. It saves some time for me. I do use the Lee bottleneck crimp die and have had no issues with setback.

 

[snakeye]

Bamashooter

Are you talking about 357 loads...you mention 357 in a earlier post...just don't want this load confused with 9MM, because 6.6 grains seems like a lot for 9MM

 

[vaalpens]

Loading 6.6 grs. of CFEpistol. 2.5 inch groups at 15 yds. Sorry don't have a chrono. C.O.L 1.135. I have found that if I use my .40sw Lee bulge buster with the Hornady dies I don't have to lube very much. It saves some time for me. I do use the Lee bottleneck crimp die and have had no issues with setback.

Bamashooter, thanks for the updade regarding your 357sig load using the new 124gr RMR HMP-FN (Hardcore Match Plated Flat nose) bullets. I am especially happy that you were able to get it to a COL of 1.135". Did you also work it up to closer to the max of 7.6gr listed on the Hodgdon site, ot just left it at 6.6gr?

I have a few of these RMR bullets on order and are looking forward to evaluate them for the 357sig.

 

[vaalpens]

I received my RMR 124gr Hardcore Match Plated Flat Nose bullets today. First thing I did was to load up a few 357sig dummy rounds to put it through my recycle, setback and scale test. It seems it will make the 1.135" COL, but I will have to find some of my longer brass to confirm that the mouth will still be on the bearing surface. Jake indicated that these are .356" diameter, but my measurements showed .3565".

I loaded two dummy rounds and used my normal 357sig Lee FCD crimping setting. Both dummy rounds measured at 1.136" COL. After 5 cycles, the one round was at 1.1335" and the other at 1.1325". The setbacks were .0025" and .0035" which is acceptable to me for 5 cycles and rounds that will only be used at the range. I had no problems cycling the rounds also.

Both rounds also passed the bathroom scale test where it was held at about 24lbs for 5 seconds without any setback.

It seems these will work well for the 357sig and hopefully I will be able test some out in a couple of weeks.

 

[vaalpens]

Just a quick update regarding the 357sig COL for these bullets.

After my previous test I decided to test it on the bathroom scale one more time and found one of the bullets slipped in very easily. When I pulled both bullets I found the slight crimp mark on the shoulder of the bullet which probably caused this setback.

Since I am not planning on trimming my brass, I decided to load two more dummy rounds at a 1.140" COL using my normal process and test it again. Both these made it through 4 cycles without any issues and only showed a setback of .0010" and .0015". Both also passed the bathroom scale test, where they were held for about 5 seconds at 21-24lbs, twice without being pushed in.

I will ask RMR if they have a suggested 357sig COL for these bullets, but it seems that I will at least initially load it with a COL of 1.140".

 

[Dudedog]

I have some on the way. I will let everybody know how they work for me in 9mm.

 

[vaalpens]

I have som eon the way. I will let everybody know how they work for me in 9mm.

Thanks Dudedog. My empasis at the moment is on 357sig, but I have a few that I pulled from my dummy 357sig loads which has now been loaded in 9mm. Hopefully by next week I will be able to test them out.

 

[vaalpens]

I finally was able to try out the RMR 124gr Hardcaore Match Plated Flat Nose bullets in 357sig. These were loaded to a COL of 1.140" using Unique, Longshot and Power Pistol. I tested 6 different loads per powder, shooting a string of 5 per load at 10yards. This morning was very windy, but I still came away impressed. I was shooting from a rest, but with the wind the target was moving, plus it obviously impacted me also. The best grouping I had per powder was:
Unique: 1.19"
Longshot: 1.04" (impressed with 4 contiguous loads grouping of 1.04", 1.44", 1.07", 1.11")
Power Pistol: 1.16"

I have been looking for a plated bullet I can use in 357sig, and I think I found it. There were no feeding issues and I did not see any copper fouling after shooting 90 rounds, but will check again when I clean my gun.

I think I just heard my 9mm asking to be fed the same bullets, but she will have to wait. I am having too much fun with the 357sig at the moment.

 

[sellersm]

Good report, thanks vaalpens! I've got a bunch of MG bullets to go through for my 357sig, but I think the RMR will be my next purchase...

On another related topic, I'm waiting to test my 125gr & 158gr RMR .38/357 bullets! This snow needs to be gone NOW!

 

[vaalpens]

Good report, thanks vaalpens! I've got a bunch of MG bullets to go through for my 357sig, but I think the RMR will be my next purchase...

On another related topic, I'm waiting to test my 125gr & 158gr RMR .38/357 bullets! This snow needs to be gone NOW!

sellersm, thanks for the comments. I don't think RMR can replace MG if you want to push the felocity since the RMR is plated and you should probably keep it below 1500fps. I don't have a chrono so I don't know what velocity I am getting, but I never push my loads to a max in any case. For me RMR is an excellent lower cost alternative to the more expensive jacketed bullets.