Quantcast

RMR Bullets or Berry's bullets

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Gottcha, Jan 13, 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Gottcha

    Gottcha Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2016
    Messages:
    163
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    I started out buying Hornaday 9mm FMJ RN and have found a good load with them but they are expensive buying only 100 at a time. Soooooo which would be better RMR bullets http://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets-...9mm-124-gr-fmj-new-round-nose/?v=7516fd43adaa

    or https://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets...flat-point-plated-bullets-new/?v=7516fd43adaa

    Or Berrys https://www.berrysmfg.com/item/bp-9mm-356-124gr-rn

    RMR FMJ looks similar to Hornadays buy the others are cheaper...... these are for paper punching (accuracy matters) I plan on buying 1000 at a time to increases the cost savings.
     
  2. bbqreloader
    • Contributing Member

    bbqreloader Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2016
    Messages:
    794
    Location:
    Colorado
    I have used the RMR 124's and liked them. I do buy the 115gr FMJ homemade and really enjoy shooting those.
    Would it be an option to buy 250 of each and test em?? See what you like.
     
    papaairbear and Gottcha like this.
  3. Buck60

    Buck60 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2015
    Messages:
    14
    Location:
    cornfield in th middle of Illinois
    Big RMR fan here . I have ran 4 or 5 thousand 124 gr fmj 9mm and about the same in 55 gr .224 fmjbt . I have used berry's also but found the RMR more to my liking.
     
    Gottcha and bbqreloader like this.
  4. Gottcha

    Gottcha Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2016
    Messages:
    163
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    RMR seems to be winning so far! I do like the idea for FMJ and that is what I have been loading. I don't have enough experience to know if plated with act the same.
     
  5. Fine Figure of a Man

    Fine Figure of a Man Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2011
    Messages:
    3,535
    Location:
    Iowa
    I have used both Berry's and RMR. Both work well. You may want to give coated bullets a try. They are cheaper than plated and perform as well or better. I loaded thousands in several calibers from light 9mm to heavy 44 mag loads.
     
    Gottcha likes this.
  6. ColtPythonElite

    ColtPythonElite Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,490
    X2 on coated. I have shot about 4k coated bullets thru a .357 without cleaning it. The barrel has no leading.
     
    Gottcha likes this.
  7. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Messages:
    61,678
    Location:
    Alabama
  8. Starr1der

    Starr1der Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2015
    Messages:
    63
    Check out Extreme bullets if you insist on plated; I have used them and like them a lot, even more than RMR or Berry's. Have you considered coated bullets? I use Acme bullets, but there are a number of other places making them, and they load the same as plated or lead. Blue bullets, SNS casting, Missouri bullets, Precision bullets, Leatherhead bullets, Eggleston Munitions; there are a number of good choices. I personally use Acme's 115 gn RN lipstick bullets, 124 gn RN bullets, the 122 gn flat points (basically, you use 124 gn numbers), 145 RN and 147 FP. By the way-all are bright red (hence lipstick), but other companies make other colors. They are tough; you can take a torch to them, or hit them with a hammer and not break the coating. Shop around; I can get 124 gn RN for 6.5 cents ea for 3000, or $71/1,000 plus shipping; and they occasionally run a free shipping sale. Almost always cheaper than plated and if you get different colors, a great conversation piece.:thumbup:
    Just my 2 cents worth- remember, free advice is always worth what you pay.
     
    oldreloader and Gottcha like this.
  9. LiveLife

    LiveLife Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2010
    Messages:
    22,899
    Location:
    Northwest Coast
    Not always. When shopping for bullets, consider final shipped price and bulk pricing.

    I have shot all the bullets you listed and for me, out of the 3 choices you listed, I would suggest buying 3000 of 124 gr RMR FMJ. With 5% THR discount (use thehighroad5 Promo code and enter your THR ID in the order comment box), price lowers to $77.90 / 1000 shipped - http://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets-...9mm-124-gr-fmj-new-round-nose/?v=7516fd43adaa

    I have shot Montana Gold jacketed bullets for USPSA matches by choice due to quality and consistency and RMR manufactured 115/124 gr FMJ are impressive with very consistent construction and bullet to bullet weight variance around 0.5 grain (I used 1 grain variance for match shooting). At $77.90 per thousand (3000 bulk price), great price for great bullets. RMR also sizes 9mm bullets they manufacture in-house slightly larger than .355" to reduce gas leakage for greater accuracy.


    If your barrel's groove-to-groove diameter is oversized at .356"+, I would consider going with .356" sized 115 gr RMR HC Match RN at $74.10 / 1000 shipped with THR 5% discount as larger sizing will provide better bullet to barrel fit and improve accuracy - https://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets...ore-match-round-nose-plated-2/?v=7516fd43adaa
    The larger sizing with harder 11-12 BHN core will produce greater neck tension to resist bullet setback during feeding/chambering from the magazine for more consistent chamber pressures. Thicker .012"-.014" plating allows use of full jacketed load data without losing accuracy (With regular thickness plated bullets, accuracy decreased above mid range jacketed load data for me).

    FYI, not all plated bullets have the same thickness of plating or fps rating - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ng-at-25-50-yards.808446/page-2#post-10334678

    As Walkalong and others posted, Flat Nose/Hollow Point bullets are preferred for greater accuracy due to longer bullet base that shifts the center of mass towards the base for improved rotational stability in flight (reason why bullseye match shooters prefer JHP bullets over FMJ) and longer bullet base provides greater neck tension to reduce/prevent bullet setback when seated deeper in the case where case wall is thicker. But you need to consider cost vs slight increase in accuracy from bullet selection. If reliable feeding is required, I would suggest FMJ/RN nose profile over FN/HP.

    Keep in mind that it's not the finished OAL/COL that matters but the "chambered" OAL that will ultimately affect chamber pressure and resulting accuracy which will decrease shot group size and flyers
    .
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2017
    Gottcha likes this.
  10. LiveLife

    LiveLife Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2010
    Messages:
    22,899
    Location:
    Northwest Coast
    I have gotten greater accuracy from thick plated Berry's HBRN-TP and RMR HC Match bullets compared to FMJ bullets so you really need to do comparison tests to see how they perform in your pistol - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...n-9mm-40s-w-45acp.799231/page-4#post-10338994

    PM me and I can send you an assortment of bullets for you to do comparison tests.

    I have plenty of the following:

    - Berry's regular plated and HBRN-TP (thick plated)
    - Hornady HAP
    - Hunting Shack Munitions plated
    - PowerBond plated
    - Rainier Ballistics plated
    - Rocky Mountain Reloading plated and jacketed
    - Winchester jacketed
    - X-Treme regular and heavy plated
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2017
    Gottcha likes this.
  11. z7

    z7 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2014
    Messages:
    1,115
    the RMR 115 FMJ "in house made" bullets have shot really well for me in 4 different Glock's, two factory barrels and two lone wolf barrels with a mildish load of BE-86. I don't think you can go wrong with them, supporting a good, smaller company, cheap, accurate and well made.
     
    Hokie_PhD and Gottcha like this.
  12. hollywood63

    hollywood63 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    51
    I use a lot of Xtreme with no issues
     
    Tcruse and Gottcha like this.
  13. papaairbear

    papaairbear Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2011
    Messages:
    223
    Location:
    Oregon
    Another big RMR fan here, too. For FMJ, they're my primary source. 115 gr made by RMR for $79/k, 124 gr JHP for $116/k. Plus Longday Jake has graciously extended members here a 5% discount.
     
    Gottcha likes this.
  14. Gottcha

    Gottcha Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2016
    Messages:
    163
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    Thanks for all the replys! I got called into work fridaynight/and Saturday morning not much sleep in the last two days. bds thanks for the offer but I'd have to send you something. I'm think about ordering a couple hundred of each and that should give me plenty of playing around so I can really see which is better. I can only get out to a range about every other week so that makes testing go kinda slow.
     
  15. ColoradoShooter77

    ColoradoShooter77 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    1,463
    Location:
    Colorado
    I have to recommend RMR as well, it has become my go-to for bullets.
     
    Gottcha likes this.
  16. GaryL

    GaryL Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2006
    Messages:
    1,338
    Location:
    MN
    I've used both. Typically, one would have a sale or something, and I had a little $ in the reloading kitty, so that's the way it went. Have a friend who swears by the Berry's hollow base. I found a load that works well for me using RMR, so that's the direction my ship has turned. I'll have to re-evaluate when the powder for that load runs out, since it's obsolete now (bulk buy from over 10 years ago - some old guy selling off stuff).
     
    Gottcha likes this.
  17. longdayjake

    longdayjake Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2008
    Messages:
    2,751
    Location:
    Genesee, ID
    Xtreme has steadily gotten worse. Their delivery times are now consistently two weeks to a month or more. Their quality has been spotty for a while with diameters ranging from .353-359" They produce the most bullets by far but if you want better service and better bullets than Berry's is by far the better choice. I own RMR so I won't say anything about our stuff, just that between xtreme and berry's, the berry's win.

     
    Gottcha likes this.
  18. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2006
    Messages:
    25,956
    Location:
    Northeast PA, USA
    Well I will say something about RMR bullets. Everything sold there is exactly what they claim it is or better. The price is right and if there is a problem we have direct access to the owner here on this forum. Most times their FMJ bullets cost no more than the plated bullets from other makers.
     
    Gottcha, Artofgolf and papaairbear like this.
  19. Bartojc

    Bartojc Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    Messages:
    740
    Location:
    Michigan
    Not to argue RMR at all, they are a good product. I just wanted to say that I've used thousands of Berry's and not had one issue with them. All for plinking, and all in 9mm.

    -Jeff
     
    Gottcha likes this.
  20. Doublehelix

    Doublehelix Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    1,059
    Yeah, I bought some of the Xtreme plated bullets for their Black Friday sale, and it took about 3 weeks to get them. I have not inspected them yet to check on the diameters, but after reading your post, I think I am going to put a few through the calipers to see what I can find.
     
    Gottcha likes this.
  21. bullseye308

    bullseye308 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2007
    Messages:
    1,920
    Location:
    Smyrna Tennessee
    I've shot a few thousand of RMR bullets in 9mm and they are the most consistent of any I have tried in years. They are all I will use and I cast my own and still keep a few thousand RMR's on hand because a couple of my 9's shoot them so well. Come tax time I'm getting a few thousand more.
     
    Gottcha likes this.
  22. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Messages:
    61,678
    Location:
    Alabama
    I have some RMR 90 & 124 Gr JHPs and they shoot very well at a good price point. I just prepped 500 cases to load some of the 90 Gr JHPs in. I have 300 prepped for the 124s. (The 124 plated HCM HP is also very good)

    I have had good luck with Berrys and X-Tremes, maybe I have been lucky and haven't gotten a bad batch of X-Tremes, or maybe that has happened since I bought mine.
     
    Gottcha likes this.
  23. Hondo 60
    • Contributing Member

    Hondo 60 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2009
    Messages:
    6,089
    Location:
    Freeport, IL
    Exactly my experience as well.
     
  24. Fine Figure of a Man

    Fine Figure of a Man Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2011
    Messages:
    3,535
    Location:
    Iowa
    I can use coated bullets that cost less for anything I have ever loaded with plated bullets.
    Coated bullets have a higher velocity than plated with the same powder charge in anything I have tried.
    In 10 or 12 different handguns I've tried, coated bullets are as accurate if not more accurate than plated, jacketed or lead.
    Coated bullets can be loaded to higher velocities than plated. In 357, 41 and 44mag I can use the same charge as maximum for jacketed.
    For all these reasons I consider plated bullets obsolete.
     
  25. Gottcha

    Gottcha Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2016
    Messages:
    163
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    Well I just pulled the trigger on some RMR 124gr round nose plated bullets. I'll update when I get them and how they shoot. Thanks again for all the info!
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice