Ron Paul is not on Glenn Beck tonight

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There could be a video somewhere, but I'll give you what I remember...
He did not back down or apologize to RG. In fact he said that Rudy should have known that what Paul said about our foreign policy being at least part of our problem was from the 9/11 Commission Report and the RG must not have read it. Look for a link to the video. It was a pretty long interview and in my opinion (biased because I like the guy) he did well.
 
He was suppossed to be on Beck's show but he chickened out! Boy it was funny, Glen would be talking to somebody and then go "Now let's get a response from Ron Paul, whoops, I forgot he ain't here he had other engagements". BTW people need to quit blaming America for 9/11 and blame those WHO DID IT! I don't give a damn about what Osama's stated reasons were, what he did was irrational, they are militant Islamists, they are nuts! End of story. We will always be in the ME, the region is vitally important to our interests and economy. Do some of our policies look bad on the surface and sleazy, of course! It's just part of doing business, welcome to the reality of the world.
 
It's just part of doing business, welcome to the reality of the world.
ok, and the reality of the world is also that "doing business" is going to piss people off. That doesn't mean they're justified or that we shouldn't respond; it's just reality.
 
BTW people need to quit blaming America for 9/11 and blame those WHO DID IT! I don't give a damn about what Osama's stated reasons were, what he did was irrational, they are militant Islamists, they are nuts! End of story.

Oh yes, let's rattle the pit bull's cage and then call him irrational when he finally bites us.

The terrorists haven't really even bothered to hit the rest of our Allies all over the world except for Britian and maybe Germany. Now why is that?

Because terrorists are irrational doesn't give you the right to egg them on.
 
I think he came across very well in that video and I REALLY wish he would get more "air time" on the cable news outlets.
 
From the way Beck trashed Paul on the radio today, I don't blame Paul for bowing out.

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From the way Beck trashed Paul on the radio today, I don't blame Paul for bowing out.
Indeed. Why waste valuable air-time on some two-bit shock jock when you could get your face and message across CNN in prime-time and actually communicate to people who might be receptive to your message of freedom and limited government.
 
We will always be in the ME, the region is vitally important to our interests and economy. Do some of our policies look bad on the surface and sleazy, of course! It's just part of doing business, welcome to the reality of the world.

Okay, so what about when there is no more oil? Predictions I've seen don't forecast many more years of our current consumption.

Are there any other reasons we are there?

Ron Paul is right, our foreign policy is irrational. We never should have gone to Iraq (I can't think of a single "real" good thing coming out of this war), and Dr. Paul had the good foresight to see that. Who else of the Republican Candidates did? Rudy? Yeah right.

Ron Paul is amazing, and I like him more every time I hear him speak. I just wish people would listen to HIM, not the media.
 
It is so bizarre that people will take the explanations "they hate our freedom" or "they hate our religion" as gospel and not try to develop a profile of what factors contribute to the hate that sends people into Al Qaeda's or radical Islam's arms. Labeling "Islamo-fascism" as the enemy is not good enough. Read the bipartisan "Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States" and a few history books on the region.

We have been in this war for 4 years and a month, diverting huge amounts of manpower and resources from the war in Afghanistan and the hunt for bin Laden. The way this election seems to be going we will be in Iraq throughout Bush's term and throughout at least a year of his successors. Are we any safer now? This is exactly what Rep. Paul is talking about, the unintended consequences of this misadventure are sure to be felt by us for years to come. We need to look at the impact of what we are doing overseas.

Also, boohoo for Glenn Beck not getting Ron Paul. His little display on his show was pretty low. Perhaps he was upset Wolf Blitzer got to give him a chance to say his piece uninterrupted.
 
Actually it has been very successful. We haven't had a major attack in this country since 9/11. Are we paying a high price in money and the invalueable lives of our brave soldiers? Of course. But since we are there the militants are infuriated and attack there rather than here. BTW if we pull out of Iraq it will become Afghanistan pre 9/11 in short order. They will have plenty of time to plan and coordinate attacks that will make 9/11 look puny. And also the Jihadists will in even larger numbers to Afghanistan to push us out there. Should we leave there too when the water gets hot? America has to have a front somewhere, Iraq is as good as any. No it's not a GOOD choice but it is the reality of the world of today and probably for the next 50 years minimum.
 
Are there any other reasons we are there?

Peaceful international commerce, promoting world markets, both import and export. Access to foreign labor pools as an alternative to inflationary use of faux middle class American workers. Providing an alternative to inviting immigration to fill jobs that no one else wants. Some call it "free trade". Follow the money, never mind the platitudes about helping people, although that can certainly be a byproduct.
 
Actually it has been very successful. We haven't had a major attack in this country since 9/11.
That's a pretty absurd thing to say. By that logic, I could say the fact that I haven't shaved today has kept me from being mugged. One doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the other, and the fact that both things are true doesn't mean they're related in any way.

Of course just pulling out of Iraq now is a bad idea, but most of Paul's words on the matter (that I've seen) have dealt with whether or not we should have invaded in the first place. I supported the war, and believed the intelligence that was made public (as did most of Congress, regardless of party), but it has become pretty clear that there were a lot of big mistakes made in that intelligence. In retrospect, invading Iraq wasn't a great idea, especially given the lack of planning in the administration.
 
Actually it has been very successful. We haven't had a major attack in this country since 9/11.
It's a little known fact, but I've been lighting a "security candle" every night since 9/11. That's actually what has prevented another major attack.

I also have an anti-terrorist rock to sell you. It definitely works: you haven't seen any major attacks since 9/11, have you?

--Len.
 
I watched a few minutes of Glenn Beck.

My assessment is that Beck is influenced by his own religion, and that he would rather think and say that Muslims are just hateful religious extremest than think that US attacks on and occupation of the Muslim world might make them angry.

At least with Beck you can understand his thinking because of his affection for Israel. With Benito Guiliani, it makes no sense to think the 9/11 attacks were because we are a free country and we recognize rights of women.
 
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