Ronnie Barrett does it again!

[John G]

Even if criminals use a .50cal rifle, that's no reason to ban them from non-criminal use. What's next, .454casull? .44mag? Exactly what caliber is acceptable for use?

The point is, you cannot regulate human behavior, the bad guys will use anything, not just the "big scary" ones. Banning a caliber will only hurt the law-abiding gun owner.

 

[willyjixx]

This is a rifle that is currently treated like a hunting rifle, which means that any 18-year-old with a valid driver's license can get this," she said. "It's less regulated than a handgun. We have no idea who has the gun."

dang wish i could have afforded one of those as an 18 year old!
be kinda hard to be inconspicous doin a crime with that though!

 

[VaughnT]

It nevers ceases to amaze me just how dumb some people are. As it is, I just placed an order for a hat and shirt. I was hoping the keychain was made out of a real cartridge, but they aren't. Sad, that.

Also, what's a credit card security code? It asked for that in addition to my card number but I haven't a clue as to what it is. Hope my order went through.

 

[Pebcac]

The security code is a three-digit number on the back of the card. The idea is that, by requiring this for online/phone purchases, your account can't be used by someone getting your credit card number and expiration date off of a receipt or the like.

It'll be a long time before I can buy one of Mr. Barrett's rifles, but I think I'll stop in the online store and check out a T-shirt or two for the weekends.

 

[50 Shooter]

I know the PO wasn't killed with the .50, not sure if Petrosky fired it or not. It was stated in the Denver Post that he was then later retracted, they then said it was an SKS.

I have heard about the armored car incident but the info that I heard was limited. I would like to see some more info on it and not from the VPC.

I have only heard of two .50's being stolen from a gun shop but they have since been recovered. It would be one of those items that would be hard to resale without bringing alot of attention to yourself.

Like John said, it doesn't matter if it's used. If someone is going to commit a crime, they will use whatever weapon they can get. If it happens to be a .50 or a boxcutter that's handy, they will use it.

 

[mephisto]

I don’t think that anyone needs a .50 cal. But the same could be said about a car that can go 200 MPH, I think that in most states the max speed is 75 MPH. Or does anyone need a 65†big screen TV? Even more so do we need anymore-asinine regulations setup by people that have absolutely no idea on how to run a state or country? Nope. Let the fear of a weapon that very few people can afford to buy, or even shoot, scare weak minded people into submission of communist (left wing) politicians

 

[Quintin Likely]

It's not a matter of need, its a matter of want...

I sure don't need a car that'll go over 75 mph, I want one.

I don't need to win the lottery, but I sure want to.

I don't need to own a .50 caliber rifle, but I damn sure want to, especially given Barrett's stance against those who don't want me to own a .50 caliber rifle.

God bless Ronnie Barrett.

 

[brlau]

I ordered a T-shirt and added a note to Mr. Barrett thanking him for standing up. My wife (who was never exposed to firearms but fortunately isn't totally anti) agrees that it's a stupid ban. Truly a sorry state of affairs. I also hope other manufacturers step up against this lunacy.

Brian

 

[Braz]

It's nice to support Ronnie,

I have and will continue to, but the endless laws are not going to stop. You know it, and I know it. This is an easy, high profile, issue that most voters know little about. Does anyone here really believe the politicos have our best interest at heart? Do you think they are genuine in their fear of .50 weapons?

Of course not, as they have never been used in a crime in California. This is not fear driven, it's grandstanding for media attention. A simple power play, imo.

Hats and tee-shirts won't cut it anymore. We need a Million Man March to the capital. And we need to keep coming back until they fear us, instead of these long range target guns. Hell, I met folks who offered their LIVES in service of this country, who would now be made criminals with the stroke of a pen. It'll take more than tee-shirts and good wishes to stop this erosion of YOUR rights.

Sorry, but I'm pissed.

 

[John G]

I didn't buy a shirt to make a national statement, I did it to support a man, and his company.

When a company does a bad thing (like Smith and Wesson), I boycott them. When a company does a good thing (like Barrett), I support them. It's just as simple as that.

 

[4 eyed six shooter]

My hat's off to Mr. Barrett. It's nice to see that at least one gun manufacturer has a set. I have several customers who have expressed an interest in buying a .50. I will let them know of Barretts actions in California and suggest that they buy the Barrett. God Bless You, John K.

 

[benewton]

I've received the hat I ordered, and I've got to tell you that, while I more or less enlisted to send him $10 to support his stand, he makes a great hat.

I would have been happy to support the cause the anyway, but the man appears to sell a quality product.


Now, all I've got to do is to come up with $8,000 or so, free from other constaints, and the 82 order goes out the door!

 

[Rocko]

<puts his flame suit on...>

While I also applaud Mr. Barrett, I doubt he's doing it for purely altruistic reasons. I really doubt that many state and local agencies are buying .50BMG rifles, so I don't think its like he's gonna lose major $$$ by "refusing" to do business with any of them. On the other hand, the civilian .50 market is booming right now. The way I see it, Barrett has two big customers - the Feds/Military and civilians.

In his statement, he says "Anybody that's anti-Constitution or anti-United States government, I don't do business with them". Well... maybe no one else has noticed, but our federal government don't seem too keen on the consitution these days, either... If Ronnie threatens to stop selling to the military/feds if/when a .50 ban gets presented federally, I'll be more impressed.

Rocko

 

[Triad]

Rocko, one of the things that made him mad was that the LAPD presented one of THEIR Barrett rifles as an example of the sort of rifle the LA city council wanted to ban. See the thread here.

 

[abdrdude]

Howdy all. I sent Mr Barrett an email letter of support.Now to start saving my pennies/nickles/dimes/quarters to buy one of these fantastic rifles.Scott/OKC

 

[Rocko]

Rocko, one of the things that made him mad was that the LAPD presented one of THEIR Barrett rifles as an example of the sort of rifle the LA city council wanted to ban. See the thread here.

Right - I was aware of this. However, I still think that sales to any government entity on a state or local level pale in comparision to civilian .50 sales - at least right now. Especially in CA, where they're just about the "evilest" gun you can get - people are in "I'm buying it because I can" mode, using funds that may have otherwise spent on other "evil" rifles not allowed in CA.

So... while I applaud Mr. Barrett for making this statement on our rights to own these types of firearms, I don't think it really goes against his financial interest to do so - just the opposite, in fact. I believe that several of the proposed replacements of the AWB also make .50's illegal, and our president has stated he will sign anything that comes to his desk, but I haven't seen him knocking on Pres. Bush's door saying he's gonna give up Barrett's military contracts if that happens.

Rocko

 

[another okie]

You have to read articles about that incident very carefully. They tend to say something like "A man with a .50 caliber rifle killed a police officer" which is indeed different than saying "A man used a .50 caliber rifle to kill a police officer."

 

[El Rojo]

Did this guy in Colorado use a .50 BMG or a .50 muzzleloader? Seems rather far fetched for a guy that is hell bent on going out with a bang to spend that much money, but then again, if you are ready to go out with a bang, every dollar not spent is wasted.

Now why can't we get Bushmaster to jump on the bandwagon with Barrett? Heck, why not get all of the major manufacturers to just tell all PRK agencies to take a hike, until their politics change, they won't do business with them. Pipe dream I know, but what the heck.

 

[Russ]

Isn't Bratton one of those cock roach ex-police types from NY? What is he doing in the PRK? Go back to the Roach Motel Bill. Koretz can go back to the bathhouse and relax.

 

[Frohickey]

...here is my email to ronnie

Hello,

I do not know if this email will reach Ronnie Barrett, but as a freedom-loving, pro-2A citizen, I am extremely proud to have Ronnie Barrett on our side.

Imagine a business owner, willing to put his business and livelihood to preserve our 2A rights. Calling for a sales moratorium on government agencies that seek to erode on 2A rights.

If all other firearms manufacturers were to do this, the Customs officers in the airports would not be carrying Glocks, or Berettas. The Army would not be carrying M-16s, M249s and M4s. Police agencies would not be carrying Sig Sauers, S&Ws and H&Ks.

They would all need to make their own armories to make their own duty weapons again.

Kudos, Ronnie!

Thank you.

 

[gunsmith]

Recall Koretz?

maybe we can send him a message saying...Go get a job some where else your fired you Nazi wannabe!

 

[George Hill]

So in Cali, could you just neck down the .50 BMG case to .45 caliber and use them in reconfigured rifles? .338 Lapua Magnum is another good rifle caliber of choice for serious long range rifle work.

/Just wondering what my options would be if I was in Cali... thank heavans I am not.

 

[David Park]

while I applaud Mr. Barrett for making this statement on our rights to own these types of firearms, I don't think it really goes against his financial interest to do so

Actually, there is a lot of "homeland security" money being given out to state law enforcement agencies these days, and most of it is mandated for equipment purchases (rather than silly things like personnel or training ). I believe the Denver PD's federally-funded new .50BMG rifle is a Barrett, given the $8K price tag. Since selling .50s is a probably a low-volume business, Mr. Barrett might lose a significant number of sales from a state as large as California.

 

[George Hill]

You know, I would love to own a Barrett, that looks just like the big .50... but downsized to .308.

 

[Moparmike]

"Any 18 year old with a valid driver's licsense can go and buy one"

Yes, every 18 year old has one out of the following:

A. Parents who approve of owning such a un-necessarilly huge rifle (unnecessary for the average 18 year old I mean)

B. A job where coughing up $9000 is no problem at all with the PRK's cost of living.

C. Access to a .50cal dealer.

Why the hell would I go buy a rifle that costs more than most used cars at 18? Its insanity for an 18-year old without any direction or solid ground and permanant financial status to consider the purchase of this rifle. Personally at 20 I am thinking of how to get the money for my AC and not a 9k rifle.

Will someone who lives in PRK tell me why it seems that if elected, a lobotomy is apparently required?