Rossi Brawler: A single shot .410/.45 has been announced

Pat Riot said:
I am still trying to wrap my head around a single shot handgun called the “Brawler”. I guess you fire one round then wade in and clobber ‘em with it… :rofl:

I am a little confused about the sights. I see a front but no rear.
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First Look: Rossi Brawler Single-Shot Pistol | Guns N Gold

The new Rossi Brawler is a single-shot .410 and .45 Long Colt pistol with an enticingly low price.Having just recently expanded its catalog with the R95,
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The rear sight is integrated into the pic rail. And when empty, You grab the barrel and strike with the grip like a hammer! 🤣
 
someguy2800 said:
Looks like there is a notch rear sight at the rear of the optics rail
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Slappy White said:
The rear sight is integrated into the pic rail. And when empty, You grab the barrel and strike with the grip like a hammer! 🤣
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I wondered if this might be the case after I posted. I guess for two hundred bucks I can’t expect an adjustable rear sight. 😏

Perhaps that’s an option. In the future. OR I guess one could be mounted.
 
As a lover of .410 this had my attention for a brief moment. Until I realized that in all ways it is functionally inferior to the Rossi Tuffy .410 I already have except for being able to fire .45 colt. If I want to do that I would prefer my bond arms dereinger in .410/.45 colt or my S&W Governor.

Sure it's not easy to mount a red dot to my Tuffy, and I can't carry it in a holster (that I think I would have to make myself, as I can't imagine anything is on the market for the brawler yet) but I can easily fire the Tuffy 1 handed, have less felt recoil, get better ballistics from a longer barrel, and the stock holds extra ammo.

All that said are their people out there who would honestly want to use this as a single shot .45 colt hunting pistol?

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Maybe not as a hunting pistol - but I could see a gardener maybe finding some utility for it as a snake/pest gun. Your Tuffy has some advantages, but it's not pocketable and won't fit in a small tool box.

Plenty of single shot rifles and derringers have been made over the years.
And they saw use.


You know the old saying about "One man's trash..."
 
tubeshooter said:
Maybe not as a hunting pistol - but I could see a gardener maybe finding some utility for it as a snake/pest gun. Your Tuffy has some advantages, but it's not pocketable and won't fit in a small tool box.

Plenty of single shot rifles and derringers have been made over the years.
And they saw use.


You know the old saying about "One man's trash..."
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Yeah the small tool box thing is a good point. The brawler has an OAL of 14" while the Tuffy has an OAL of 31". It's my smallest longarm by far but still more than twice the length of the brawler.

I had always thought of a kit/tool box gun as a small revolver, never really thought of anything big bore fitting that use. But I could see it. Birdshot from a 9" barrel should be better than a cci snake shot shell from a 3" barrel if that special .410 choke it has counteracts the rifling in the barrel.
 
Just looked at a still picture and didn't realize it has an overall length of 14 inches.
Too much for a pocket; you'd have to make a machete-like sheath for it or something.


But as you say - enough barrel to get something ballistically out of either ammo choice.
 
tubeshooter said:
Just looked at a still picture and didn't realize it has an overall length of 14 inches.
Too much for a pocket; you'd have to make a machete-like sheath for it or something.


But as you say - enough barrel to get something ballistically out of either ammo choice.
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Yeah the short barrels are a big contributor of what robs the .410/.45 derringers and revolvers of their potential. What I can say for sure is that the features of the Brawler makes me kind of want a 6" barrel in .410/.45 colt for my bond arms Derringer more than it makes me want an actual Brawler.
 
Strange offering from Rossi. Looks like it patterns fairly nice. Reminds me of the old Rexio SA Colt looking pistol. Might be a good platform for 357mag or 44. Good that they put a set of decent sights on it instead of a bead or just depending on that rail.

Might be two ways to market this....

#1 obviously being a target/hunting pistol/platform.

#2 would be a sort of kayak/camping/mariner survival gun type. Rossi should probably look at offering it in an electroless nickel or hard chrome finish to make it more marine/water conditions friendly. I hate to say it but a pistol like this would do well to have a rail (or at least an attachment system? molded into the underside of the barrel or front stock section.

Couple things rossi could look at...

1. Barrel kits or packages it 22lr, 357, 44Mag
2. Cartridge inserts
3. It needs a lanyard attachment somewear
4. Maybe hook up with Lightfield Ammunition and work out a deal for 410 flares and their wildlife control rounds.

Nothing earth shattering in this new offering but should make a useful tool or target/hunting pistol on the budget.

However......What Rossi should really do is take their Magtech plinkster RS22 design and do a pistol variation. Mossberg already uses it for an AR15 style 22lr pistol. Rossi should base theirs more around the Mauser 1896 or Charter Arms Explorer in terms of theme/style. That or really shake things up and do a full blown Han Solo Star Wars mock up in 22lr. The design is excellent for it. All they really need to do is design a pistol stock. Those would be a hit across the board.
 
I would interested in an 18 inch single shot shotgun that could use 45 colt and 410. Probably too heavy though.
 
drobs said:
I would interested in an 18 inch single shot shotgun that could use 45 colt and 410. Probably too heavy though.
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Honestly a single shot .410 would probably do the same job with .410 slugs that don't break up upon impact. The standard .410 foster slug is terrible for that, but Brenneke slugs hold together and transfer a lot of energy to the target.

Magnum™ | Brenneke - Ammunition

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You can see the differences in some of Buffalo Outdoors videos.





Unless you are hunting something that requires s really hot hardcast .45 colt load, I think you would be fine with the Brenneke 3" .410 magnums.
 
Oninotaki said:
Honestly a single shot .410 would probably do the same job with .410 slugs that don't break up upon impact. The standard .410 foster slug is terrible for that, but Brenneke slugs hold together and transfer a lot of energy to the target.

Magnum™ | Brenneke - Ammunition

www.brennekeusa.com www.brennekeusa.com

You can see the differences in some of Buffalo Outdoors videos.





Unless you are hunting something that requires s really hot hardcast .45 colt load, I think you would be fine with the Brenneke 3" .410 magnums.
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The owners manual for the Rossi Brawler says "NO SLUGS". Not sure why. Also says "NO 454 Casull ammo".
 
Oninotaki said:
Honestly a single shot .410 would probably do the same job with .410 slugs that don't break up upon impact. The standard .410 foster slug is terrible for that, but Brenneke slugs hold together and transfer a lot of energy to the target.

Magnum™ | Brenneke - Ammunition

www.brennekeusa.com www.brennekeusa.com

You can see the differences in some of Buffalo Outdoors videos.





Unless you are hunting something that requires s really hot hardcast .45 colt load, I think you would be fine with the Brenneke 3" .410 magnums.
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I'm not saying that 410/45 Colt rifle would have any practical purpose, other than being kind of cool.

Oninotaki said:
As a lover of .410 this had my attention for a brief moment. Until I realized that in all ways it is functionally inferior to the Rossi Tuffy .410 I already have except for being able to fire .45 colt. If I want to do that I would prefer my bond arms dereinger in .410/.45 colt or my S&W Governor.

Sure it's not easy to mount a red dot to my Tuffy, and I can't carry it in a holster (that I think I would have to make myself, as I can't imagine anything is on the market for the brawler yet) but I can easily fire the Tuffy 1 handed, have less felt recoil, get better ballistics from a longer barrel, and the stock holds extra ammo.

All that said are their people out there who would honestly want to use this as a single shot .45 colt hunting pistol?

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Firearms bearing the Rossi name have led the way in design and engineering, all the while remaining an affordable product without any sacrifice to quality.
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Is there a Choke on the Tuffy? The link doesn't mention one.

My New England Firearms Pardner .410 has a full choke.
 
Quick range report.

Seems well made. Not front heavy, even though the frame is polymer. Tight action to open; it took both hands. Perhaps that tightness will lessen after a while. I only shot .45 Colt ammo, and it wasn't a heavy load. 230 grain Berry's RN over 10.5 grains Accurate #5, Starline brass.

Hammer pull is fairly heavy, but not overly so. Trigger has a smooth take-up which is reasonably short. Firm wall, no creep. The break is a little gritty. I didn't think about overtravel, but it didn't seem to me to be too much.

The sights are as previously described in this thread - front blade, with a V notch in the Picatinny rail which is your rear sight.

The grip felt great in my hands, but I am a big guy, with big hands. Recoil was very minor, with very little muzzle rise.

I bought it from Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore, $199 including shipping, but sales tax was added. My LGS charges $25 for transfers.

Edit: I see the Brawler is still available as a "pre-order" and they've raised the price $10. I ordered mine on August 3, and it arrived today at my LGS.
 
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drobs said:
I'm not saying that 410/45 Colt rifle would have any practical purpose, other than being kind of cool.



Is there a Choke on the Tuffy? The link doesn't mention one.

My New England Firearms Pardner .410 has a full choke.
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Yes the Rossi Tuffy has a fixed modified choke.

I have shot slugs out if it without issue. As has the gentleman in this video. This video being the video that basically convinced me to get one.

 
armoredman said:
Make it a double barrel, add a Mad Max style holster/belt combo, winner, winner. :)
Actually. get rid of the stupid Picatinney and make it a double barrel, sell as the new Snake Charmer. Then people might buy it.
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That would be slick and even more tempting to get. Like a more useful version of one of those old Cobray .410/.45 colt derringers.

Man now I am thinking about SBSing my Rossi Tuffy to just beyond the the foregrip or picking up a cheap .410 SxS and SBSing that.

Clearly the Brawler taps into something interesting and fun. Good on Rossi for releasing it.

 
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TTv2 said:
Is the frame/receiver steel or aluminum?

Edit: Nvr mind, just saw it's polymer.
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I have additional information. The Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore site now says, "Receiver: Steel with Polymer Over Mold for All-Weather" which I don't remember reading when I bought mine. They must have updated their site. Having a steel core in the frame explains the heft. I was puzzling over the balance, since an all-polymer frame would be lighter that what I feel in my hand.

Edit: somebody joked about gripping the barrel and using as a short club. It would make an excellent cudgel. It's a hefty weapon.
 
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