Zerodefect
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A know somwone that had his Rot chew all the wiring harness's out of the bottom of his brand new Chevy Duramax. :banghead:
Rottweiller w/ idiotic owner vs. Glock 36
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scythefwd
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LOL!!! Could be worse.. Think I had a squirrel get into my harness in my beetle diesel (new body style). That car was designed by a midget with a grudge against normal sized hands. Every once in a while I get a short that causes problems (like electrical bleed to my fuel pump). It's getting less and less common... maybe I have finally burned my way through the dang thing 
Funny, never smelled the squirrel
Funny, never smelled the squirrel I don't know. We had a Schnauzer that ate the air value off a front tire and a quarter of the car's air damn. Then it completely mangled a stack of lead alloy ingots and a 2x4 supporting my home-built work bench. We ended up giving the dog to an animal obedience training specialist and learned several years late the dog had developed epilepsy soon after we gifted her.
B.S. here maybe, but to say dogs don't chew on "odd" things is just plain incorrect.
B.S. here maybe, but to say dogs don't chew on "odd" things is just plain incorrect.
MtnCreek
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I believe it. The Black Kong (dog toy) is supposable indestructible, but no match for a 105 lb GSD.
I will add this: A dog will not be any smarted than its owner….
MachIVshooter
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A friend of mine had two Aussies, they had a thing for the bunnies. Well, those rabbits would get up inside his skid, his forklift, other equipment. Stupid dogs would chew through the hydraulic hoses trying to get the furry thing.
Probably a bunny. I've had several cars come in with large portions of the harness eaten (not just chewed through) on account of rabbits. Mice and squirrels are more known for destroying the insulation; they usually only chew wires if they're in the way of nest building. Rabbits, OTOH, seem to actually like the taste of copper and rubber insulation.
scythefwd
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Mach - Just random shorts, which indicate poor insulation somewhere. I get voltage when the main power relay is supposed to be off... I just don't have the 80 + hours to uninstall the three main branches of my harness and not only continuity test but physically inspect every millimeter of it.
Apologies for yet another "sideways offtopic" ...
Thanks, but no ... they're not working dogs at all and I wouldn't use a Rottweiler for any form of hunting, they're not built for that sort of thing. My Rotts get home cooked meals twice a day (lamb, rice, oats and carrots) and sleep on the bed with me!! They love to run on some hiking trails but make so much noise crashing through the undergrowth that there's little chance of them sneaking up on a pig, but it does happen on occasion. There are plenty of pigs up in the mountains, and I'm sure you've heard the expression "even a blind pig can find a truffle ...", consequently, they've chased a few over the years, one of them right back to me!!
dcarch said:
Thanks, but no ... they're not working dogs at all and I wouldn't use a Rottweiler for any form of hunting, they're not built for that sort of thing. My Rotts get home cooked meals twice a day (lamb, rice, oats and carrots) and sleep on the bed with me!! They love to run on some hiking trails but make so much noise crashing through the undergrowth that there's little chance of them sneaking up on a pig, but it does happen on occasion. There are plenty of pigs up in the mountains, and I'm sure you've heard the expression "even a blind pig can find a truffle ...", consequently, they've chased a few over the years, one of them right back to me!!
rodensouth
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Dogs upper 4th premolars, or carnassial teeth, mesh with the lower molars just like a shear. This area is also closer to the fulcrum point, so power is greatly increased.
I have seen them chew through metal cages.
Just a warning for the dog owners, but I have to extract those carnassial teeth frequently due to slab fractures caused by chewing on hard objects such as nylabones, and small tightly rolled rawhides, and bone.
Check the tips of those big pointy carnassials on dogs that chew hard things a lot and they will often be chipped.
Fun thread.
I have seen them chew through metal cages.
Just a warning for the dog owners, but I have to extract those carnassial teeth frequently due to slab fractures caused by chewing on hard objects such as nylabones, and small tightly rolled rawhides, and bone.
Check the tips of those big pointy carnassials on dogs that chew hard things a lot and they will often be chipped.
Fun thread.
dcarch
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Well, they're cool dogs anyhow. If you got wild pigs around there, I'd sure want to have a dog or two w/me. I got an Airedale. They're some of the best hunting dogs going, and one of the most unknown of breeds. I've always said that an Airedale can do anything any other dog can do, but still act superior to the other dog doing the same thing. They have an air about them that distinctly reminds you of officers in the colonial British army. They just seem to constantly be carrying the "stiff upper lip" attitude. Love that breed.
Love that breed.A buddy of mine has a Rodesian something or other that is just plain huge, but a real pushover who's afraid of his own shadow. He did however destroy 2 Saiga Promags, 1 PMag, and chew up an AR Beta Mag (still works though) in the time it took us to see Battle For Los Angles in the theater.
Fotno
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Your friend probably has a Rhodesian Ridgeback. Marvelous dogs, and considered to be (believe it or not) one of the bravest breeds there is. They're a sight hound originally bred to bait African Lions.
Zerodefect
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That's interesting. In my country, the Peoples Rupublic of Ohio, we use small children to bait Lions.
LOL. I'll second that RR's are oddly gentle around people. Nice dogs.
LOL. I'll second that RR's are oddly gentle around people. Nice dogs.
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ROFL! I had no doubt whatsoever that it was possible. I had a 65# Rott/Staffy/Corgi mix that could pop a tennis ball without a thought.
Most dogs I've owned could do some damage to a solid Nylabone. That's some tough stuff.
Chewing up unauthorized items says nothing of a dog's intelligence. Dogs chew. It's up to the owner what they chew. Dogs also destroy things when they're bored.
I own an Australian Cattle Dog. They are renowned for their destructive capabilities. I can count the unauthorized items he's chewed up on one hand and EVERY single time it was my fault.
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Ash
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Heh, Border Collies get inventive when they get bored. I have one that is the worlds best escape artist. She escapes just so that she can sit on the front porch. Worse, she has figured out how to open doors with round door knobs (and is also polite enough to close the door behind her) I have seen her open a bathroom door. Fortunately, she can only open doors that swing away from her. She has not figured out how to open a door that pulls towards her.
Fishslayer
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Give her time. I swear if the herding breeds ever develope opposable thumbs we are all in big trouble!
1911Tuner
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Border Collies are wicked smart. Long recognized as the top breed for natural intelligence. Standard Collies were at one time. Not so much any more since the AKC show folks started demanding longer and narrower skulls...the end result reducing brain capacity and innate intelligence.
I used to breed Collies, but refused to adhere to AKC standards for the breed...so the last batch that came from my efforts were "Old-Fashioned Farm Collies." A 75/25 Collie Border Collie mix from a recipe that has to be followed to the letter. The result is a beautiful dog with an even temperament that makes a game out of outsmarting its owner...and does about half the time.
No such dog as a "Miniature Collie." They're Shetland Sheepdogs...aka "Sheltie" though sometimes informally called "Toy Collies." Shelties haven't been re-engineered the way that standard Collies have, so they're plenty clever.
On topic...
A standard Collie can eat through a Glock frame, too. It'll just take a little longer than for a Rott or a Pit.
Bred to herd and protect sheep from wolves and other predators...pound for pound, their bite force is equal to that of a German Shepherd, and their canines are longer and more pointy to boot. Don't let the pastoral image of Timmy and Lassie fool ya. A big male Collie can be a serious matter if sufficiently provoked.
I used to breed Collies, but refused to adhere to AKC standards for the breed...so the last batch that came from my efforts were "Old-Fashioned Farm Collies." A 75/25 Collie Border Collie mix from a recipe that has to be followed to the letter. The result is a beautiful dog with an even temperament that makes a game out of outsmarting its owner...and does about half the time.
No such dog as a "Miniature Collie." They're Shetland Sheepdogs...aka "Sheltie" though sometimes informally called "Toy Collies." Shelties haven't been re-engineered the way that standard Collies have, so they're plenty clever.
On topic...
A standard Collie can eat through a Glock frame, too. It'll just take a little longer than for a Rott or a Pit.
Bred to herd and protect sheep from wolves and other predators...pound for pound, their bite force is equal to that of a German Shepherd, and their canines are longer and more pointy to boot. Don't let the pastoral image of Timmy and Lassie fool ya. A big male Collie can be a serious matter if sufficiently provoked.
Mike1234567
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1911... Where might one locate a Border Collie mix as you describe?
Ash
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The best dog I ever had was a Shetland. She knew the difference between "shake" and "shake." One was what she did when she was wet. The other was when she was dry. She knew "left" from "right" and was bar none the best hiking companion I ever had. She was even-tempered, knew that "lie down" meant to get comfortable, "plant it" meant lie down quickly, and "that's enough" meant to stop scratching. If I said "bang" she would do a ham-acting of playing dead, usually involving some grunting and whining before flipping her self onto the ground and waving her paws before lying still. My border collies Daisy and Jill are almost as good but will not likely ever rise up to Molly's level (If I yell "come" Daisy comes, if I yell "here" Jill comes, if I yell "Come Here" both border collies come.
She did chew early in life, but I doubt she was strong enough to chew through a Glock grip though, unless she just worked on it for a long while. Daisy and Jill probably could in time.
She did chew early in life, but I doubt she was strong enough to chew through a Glock grip though, unless she just worked on it for a long while. Daisy and Jill probably could in time.
1911Tuner
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Mike...sadly, almost nobody breeds Old Fashioned or Old World Farm Collies any more. At one time, there were only 48 documented in North Carolina, and I had three of'em...all brothers from the same litter.
If you're interested in breeding them, the rewards are ample. The recipe is thus:
Collie dam/Border Collie sire. Breed a full male Collie...preferably black tricolor...with the female offspring of that mating. You can reverse it and technically have an OWFC...but it's not quite the same dog in looks, intelligence, or temperament. Nobody seems to be able to tell me why...but that's the way it is.
Once that has been seen to, all pups...male and female...are the real things, and ready to breed with others that are properly engineered. No inbreeding, please...and never breed the odd Blue Merle that appears about one birth in a hundred. If the mate also has the Merle gene...you have what is known as a Double Dilute...and you stand a good chance of producing blind and/or deaf pups.
If you're lucky enough to find someone who has followed the exact process, you are then ready to establish a breeding stock for what is...IMHO...the best of the best of the Collie variants. Scary smart...agile, athletic companions that are ready to run you ragged in play...work their hearts out from sunup to sundown...or lay at your feet and be lazy. Your call.
Mike1234567
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1911... I'm not well enough to dedicate the proper time for such an endeavor. I just want a nice companion. I don't think my old pug has much longer.
1911Tuner
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Mike, you could do a lot worse than a Sheltie. They're alert, fiercely devoted and smart as a whip. They tend to be a little vocal, though...but that means that not even so much as a squirrel will get onto the property without letting you know. They're also just happy little dogs, and are content to hang out with you or go for a romp as you please.
I suggest going through a rescue instead of a breeder. There's very likely one nearer than you think. I also strongly recommend a female.
I suggest going through a rescue instead of a breeder. There's very likely one nearer than you think. I also strongly recommend a female.
Mike1234567
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1911... I appreciate the sage advice. And I agree that a rescue is the best option. Finding one may be a bit challenging though. The other more important challenge is making SURE the little fellow is cared for if he outlasts me.
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English bull dog will chew the cover off a golf ball in under 15 minutes
Mike1234567
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Wouldn't that be an English Ball Dog??
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