ruger 10/22 or savage 64 or other?

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Out of box, which is a more reliable, accurate shooter, and also I would like to know which can be made into the best gun? I know there are a gazillion add-ons and accessories for the 10/22, and I am not opposed to improving the gun over time. What about the savage? Is the cost NIB more for one over the other. As you may have seen in the other thread I started I am considering a .22lr and wow, there are a lot of choices. I am trying to become educated so I only have to make this purchase once. I am interested only in semi autos since I can shoot my brother in laws bolt action anytime I want. Thanks in advance!
 
If you want to build a .22 semiauto from add-ons, accessories and replacement parts, there's only one gun to buy.
 
As I said, there's only one rifle to buy, if you want to build it out over time.

The 10/22 has an absolutely bewildering variety of stocks, barrels, match-grade action parts, even aftermarket receivers, from a bewildering number of different vendors, at a number of price points. You can buy or build (slowly or all at once) a 10/22 that has no original parts in it at all, or you can just change out one thing or another to suit your tastes and budget.

That's the gun to buy if you want to work on it. Nothing else in rimfire comes close to it. It's in the same class as the AR, the 870 or the 1911, for someone who wants to tinker with a gun and make it perfect for him.

I might prefer another gun in bone-stock base-model form, because of price, stock fit, barrel quality, features, etc. But if you plan to change what you aren't satisfied with, get the 10/22. There's literally nothing on it you can't change if you want to. Most other guns, you're stuck with what you bought.
 
Good points. If I decide to go totally custom, should I consider just buying the parts and skip the initial complete gun purchase? In the long run would it be cheaper this way? In other words, buy the stock I want. a reciever, a trigger group, Barrel I want, etc?
 
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Aftermarket receivers are pretty expensive. You can pick up a new or used 10/22 for less than a stripped receiver, and you want the trigger group unless you want to buy a Volquartsen trigger group for $200. Aftermarket receivers may be steel with integral scope mounts, but again, it depends on what you want to spend. I think I'd just buy a 10/22, but in its cheapest form. If you get REALLY into it, build a second gun with all custom parts later. It'll cost even more than mod'ing up a 10/22.

Magnum Research sells high-end 10/22 clones for a good deal less than Volquartsen, and they're really nice. But if you want to fun of building the thing, you miss out on that. I think they sell just the receivers, too, but again they're more than a basic 10/22 even brand new, and they don't include a lot of parts that work fine stock, like the bolt body and the trigger group.

Generally, you'll buy a stock and barrel at the same time, since the barrel won't fit in the base-model stock. Otherwise, though, you can do one thing at a time. Like you could upgrade the trigger and leave a base-model 10/22 alone. Then you could add something like hold-open and an upgraded extractor. That would total a bit over $100, and you'd get familiar with the innards.

Then, put on a nice scope. Get that all worked out. Once you have a good trigger and a good scope, you'll be able to take advantage of a match-grade barrel.

Then you can look around for stocks and barrels (sometimes sold as combos for a price cut). There are space-gun stocks, and plain ones, walnut, laminate, thumbhole, rubberized. Depends on what you want.

If you want a target rifle up front, get the Magnum Research or Volquartsen. But if you want the fun of building it out, get a stock 10/22.

No matter what, expect to spend a little cash.

Me? I bought a Marlin 60 on sale for $120 new with a laminate stock, and I'll mount it under the scope that's now on my bone-stock recessed-synthetic 10/22. The 10/22 has aftermarket fiber sights; it will become my open sight under-the-seat rabbit/can gun. The standard carbine stock is totally wrong for a scope, even a small one mounted low, but it works fine with irons. It's also plenty accurate for iron sights, but a good scope makes you want a big fat target barrel. The Marlin comes with a heavy barrel already, though not as heavy as people put on their 10/22s.

I'm building an AR-15 with my play money, not a 10/22. About the same cash outlay, but I won't be able to afford to shoot it as much.:)
 
If you want to just take it out of the box and blaze away, the Savage or Marlin.

If you want the "Chevy Small-Block Engine" of the rimfire rifle world, the 10/22. Run it box-stock, or tune it up as much as you want...just like scratch-building the Chevy SBE.

I'm not the automotive 'gear-head' I used to be, but I have built up a couple of CSBE's, and a Mopar 383
 
If you are looking for a good out of the box 22, the marlin 60 is about the best you can get for a decent price, the savage isn't bad either, but what you see is what you get. The 10/22 has a heavy trigger and some annoying habits in stock form, but shoots well and is durable. If you were just looking at a basic rifle to shoot, go with the 10/22 and put in a volquartsen hammer kit for $30, and just stick with that, but you can (and probably will) get the upgrade bug. If you can find one, they are a little pricey, but the CZ511 and browning buckmark rifle are excellent, and shoot circles around almost any other stock 22.
for some ideas look here http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=296791

or here http://www.rimfirecentral.com/
 
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