joe_security
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I fired the first shots through a brand new SP101 snub .357 DAO about two weeks ago. The thing works great and the new owner is confident in it as a HD/SD gun.
Ruger 357 Black Hawk is Junk
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CraigC
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Quite the contrary. I do not in any way diminish one's negative experiences, nor do I refuse to believe it can happen. Ruger is a producer of quality, yet affordable guns for the working man. They do not and will never produce perfection. They let some turds out once in a while, the New Bearcat I got last year was one of them. Where I take issue is when one guy, with a problem with one gun becomes Chicken Little. A singular issue is statistically insignficant, yet folks like to get on their soapbox and rant and rave about how Ruger's QC is in the toilet. Blowing everything out of proportion. Over one, statistically insignificant issue. Unfortunately, with the internet, everybody who wants to complain about something can find a box to stand on. No sir, the world does not revolve around you. I am sorry you had a problem with your gun but it is no indication that the world is about to end. Fix it or sell it and move on. Get a life, indeed.
I'm just trying to put things in perspective.
03Shadowbob
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All of my Ruger Revolvers have been very accurate, well built and never had a problem with them. That said, any company that makes you pay for shipping a defective gun back to the factory is lame IMO.
m500'92
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From what I've experienced, Ruger's QC hasn't been there for the past 10yrs+ (or at least as long as I've bought one). Never got a revolver that shot to point of aim, even a bisley .22 that had adjustable sights couldn't make it within a few inches or more of where you'd aim, compared to colts and even ubertis that all have had fixed sights and shoot 6 o clock or to point of aim. Also never had as much trouble with a clip as the "great" rotary mag (plastic rip off of savage's design), half to 3/4 of them were broken or kept malfunctioning from the factory. Maybe I'm just unlucky with them but I wouldn't buy another especially adding on top of that that you're giving you're money to a company that supported anti-gun, elitist agendas.
Yarddog
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[QUOTE. Ruger is a producer of quality, yet affordable guns for the working man.QUOTE]
I agree 100%, Though I've never had to use Ruger cutemer service ; )
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I agree 100%, Though I've never had to use Ruger cutemer service ; )
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I used Ruger CS twice. Both times it was the same pistol, a SR9. First return was due to barrel peening. The second time was the trigger recall. Both times Ruger paid shipping both ways and sent me spare magazines for my troubles, (I now have 5 Ruger mags for my SR9).
I never once whined about any of it or thought Ruger's new direction was wrong. I really like the pistol as it has been flawlessly reliable and I knew Ruger would sort it out.
I have owned 12 Ruger products and will purchase more in the future. It is hard to beat rugged, reliable and affordable, combined with great service support.
I never once whined about any of it or thought Ruger's new direction was wrong. I really like the pistol as it has been flawlessly reliable and I knew Ruger would sort it out.
I have owned 12 Ruger products and will purchase more in the future. It is hard to beat rugged, reliable and affordable, combined with great service support.
buck460XVR
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.....you mean the whiners. The ones that rant about other rants. The ones that reintroduce their rant into every thread. Like the internal lock......or the billboard on the barrel every time there is a thread on guns, regardless of the topic. Yep........know exactly what you mean. But I believe the OP talked about several bad experiences, not just one, and he did say in the OP that he was moving on and selling it, after attempting to have it fixed. BTW, on another forum where he posted the same thread, he was brutally trashed for even considering selling a POS firearm to someone else. Poor guy.....can't do nuttin' right.
CraigC
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Welcome to the internet, the world's complaint department, where every molehill is promptly made into a mountain and the mob will gather to burn the infidels. Please take a number....
jimmyraythomason
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Ain't it the truth! If I took to heart all of these horror strories, I wouldn't buy any firearm made after 1964.
CSA 357
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i have never had any trouble with my blackhawks! bought one in 1979 and its still going strong, you never know what a person does to there guns look on youtube and see them spining the cylinder and slaming it closed! makes me sick to see that!
CraigC
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No anger whatsoever, just trying to put things in perspective. Sorry if I don't run with the mob.
SwampWolf
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If Ruger "ripped off" Savage, are we then to assume that Savage "ripped off" the Austrian Mannlicher-Schoenauer-the company that first employed the rotary-spool magazine?
CraigC
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Everything is based on something so to me, that is not much of an argument. And for the record, I have never heard but a handful of complaints about the Ruger rotary magazine. They are as good as you could want in a factory magazine.
Erik M
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Probably shouldnt have bought a gun that was obviously flawed. IMO nothing beats a Ruger. I'll be recieving my stainless Vaquero this week.
Interesting that all those 13 posts are complaints.Anyone notice the OP hadn't made a post in months but all of a sudden - BAM - it's a tirade!
m500'92
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Yes apparantly it is, never heard of that before though, ok then savage and ruger ripped off manlicher but at least Savage used metal.
Yes there's some things you can't get around that are just commone sense, like making the gun out of metal, using rifling, etc. When almost everything a gun maker makes is copied off other gun makers, they aren't very innovative, like Ruger, they just made cheaper versions of good designs that better sell to the public. (yet everyone thinks he's a genius and in the same category as Browning, which is far from the truth)
And nothing will ever be as simple, reliable or streamlined as a single stack magazine thats made out of metal, plastic wears out and will be more likely to stick and jam, making it of a rotary design just makes things worse.
bannockburn
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Well speaking from personal experience, I'm still using the factory mag in my 10/22 and it's been over 30 years since I bought the rifle. Never have had any problems with the original, or the half dozen or more factory spares I've bought over the years. The only ones that gave me trouble are the aftermarket variety.
SharpsDressedMan
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I, for one, feel EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion. I get on these boards to glean information from all of you. I also like expounding now and then, and I am sure I sound off as much as give sound advice. The OP falls in between the two, like most of us do, and probably just wanted to caution us about QC at Ruger as of late. It didn't take away or diminish MY positive experiences with Ruger over the years, but it did make me sad to think they may be slipping a bit. Most of my more recent purchases of NEW firearms have been Rugers.....specifically a "50th Year" .44 Magnum Flattop, and a .44 Special Blackhawk. Both have had no problems, and were fit and finished quite well. Based on my experience (bought between 2008-2009), I'd have to give Ruger a thumbs up. The OP might make me examine any prospective purchase more closely, nothing wrong with that, and I might say thanks for the heads up. We all are still, utimately. responsible for our own purchases and happiness.
Guillermo
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I am not a Ruger fan so I do not have a dog in the hunt. (although the SP101 does interest me)
Yes a buddy of mine had problems with a Bearcat and I hear about other occasional issues. Sounds like Ruger always steps up. Not the case (from what I hear) with Taurus. While S&W seems to have more problems than the other two combined they seem to handle them really well.
Yes, Ruger has used some other people's designs (the LCP has the same part numbers as the Kel Tec) they also have also designed some guns that are mainstays (10-22 comes to mind as does the Ruger 22 pistol Marks I thru IVM)
Of course I like Jimmy Ray's inadvertent advice
Yes a buddy of mine had problems with a Bearcat and I hear about other occasional issues. Sounds like Ruger always steps up. Not the case (from what I hear) with Taurus. While S&W seems to have more problems than the other two combined they seem to handle them really well.
Yes, Ruger has used some other people's designs (the LCP has the same part numbers as the Kel Tec) they also have also designed some guns that are mainstays (10-22 comes to mind as does the Ruger 22 pistol Marks I thru IVM)
Of course I like Jimmy Ray's inadvertent advice
Two of the last three Rugers I got were junk. The LCP went back 3 times before they gave me a refund. They were jerky about it too. Other than the LCR, I don't know why anyone would get a Ruger .357 when there are good used Colt's & S&Ws around for not much money.
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