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Ruger 44spl ?

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Will Ruger ever make a five shot 44 special on a GP-100 frame?
I would get one, anyone else?
 
There's a possibility, but it won't be for a long time. With revolvers, Ruger seems to be focusing on the .327 as they've released 3 revolvers in less than 2 years. With the GP not currently chambered for it, I think that's their next GP100. Once that's done, I think they're likely to expand their LCRx line.

And since Ruger already has many Redhawks in .44 Magnum, I doubt they'll jump on it ever, but I'll never say never.
 
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Will Ruger ever make a five shot 44 special on a GP-100 frame?
I would get one, anyone else?
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This topic seems to come up here about once a month anymore, seriously.

The truth is, I highly doubt Ruger will ever release a 5-shot .44 special revolver. There is just not enough demand. A Charter Arm's Bulldog in .44 special is a fine substitute, and the discontinued yet still affordable Rossi M720 is even better. S&W also made a 5-shot .44 special gun or two, though they command pretty high prices these days. Though I personally find even a CA Bulldog to not conceal too well, I consider the type to be a very excellent and practical small belt revolver.
 
Though I personally find even a CA Bulldog to not conceal too well, I consider the type to be a very excellent and practical small belt revolver.
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I have also thought a five shot 40 cal. about the size of a Colt Detective special would be cool, able to run 40 S&W with moon clips or a new rimmed 40 S&W rimmed cartridge.
Just dreaming :D
 
Cooldill said:
This topic seems to come up here about once a month anymore, seriously.

The truth is, I highly doubt Ruger will ever release a 5-shot .44 special revolver. There is just not enough demand.
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If Ruger will make a .44 Spec Blackhawk, continuously, then I think there will always be a chance they'll make a DA .44 Special, even if it's a limited run of 500 or 1000 units.
 
I think the closest you're going to get to a 5 shot current production 44 special as capable as the black hawks is a S & W model 69.
 
If Ruger will make a .44 Spec Blackhawk, continuously, then I think there will always be a chance they'll make a DA .44 Special, even if it's a limited run of 500 or 1000 units.
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Apples and oranges.
 
I too hope they will someday produce a 5 shot GP 100 chambered in 44 special. I am certainly not planning on it. But it would be an excellent revolver. And certainly stronger than a CA bulldog.
 
Rather than have a thin walled forcing cone in the GP100, I can just picture Ruger opting for the boat anchor Redhawk. I have two Redhawks, but the dimensions of the 45 Colt cartridge are what make it a sensible design.
 
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Rather than have a thin walled forcing cone in the GP100, I can just picture Ruger opting for the boat anchor Redhawk.
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I could see this too, except they Redhawk is already chambered in 44 magnum. So I don't know if they would sell a dedicated 44 special Redhawk or not. And if they did I wouldn't buy one. The redhawk is a heavy handgun, certainly not behooving a 44 special. But I have seen a couple pictures of custom gp 100s chambered in 44 special. And the forcing cone is ridiculously thin. I'm not sure how Ruger can get around it. Hopefully they can figure something out.
 
Ruger doesn't want to deal with all of the stupid handloaders that WOULD destroy the forcing cone with their flamethrower +P light bullet handloads. S&W learned that lesson the hard way and dropped their L frame .44 Spl. revolvers after only a few years. Stuffing a .44 barrel into a medium frame revolver leaves very little room for a decent sized forcing cone. Putting a small caliber into a large frame works fine - but putting a big bore caliber into a frame designed for a .357 opens up a lot of room for abuse. If people would stick to moderate .44 Spl. loads it could be doable - but they won't (cuz MO is better). If I were a manufacturer I wouldn't want to deal with those people either. And Ruger has always been known to overbuild their guns (which is a good thing) until the current craze came for lightweight polymer/alloy pocket pistols. I wouldn't want to warranty those guns either. A huge number of people today no longer believe that a 200 gr. .44 bullet @ 850-900 fps is plenty of power. But it is. :scrutiny:
 
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Yup. If we could get the ammo companies to offer a .41 Spl. cartridge - THAT would be a hell of a carry revolver. But unless you are willing to handload for it I don't think the .41 Spl. would ever become popular. It is a very good cartridge though and would fit nicely into a lot of existing frames. I have thought for a long time that the 10mm in a medium sized revolver with full moon clips would make a GREAT carry gun.
 
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I doubt it, but there might be some factory 41 special revolvers some day? Starline brass is now selling "41 Special" headstamped brass. There is an idea for some fantastic distributor exclusives. It wouldn't take much for ruger to offer a Blackhawk Flattop in 41 Special, and a GP 100. I know I am grasping at straws, but what the heck :D
 
Maybe, but at the end of the day if Ruger can sell all 500 of those .44 Special GP100's, then they'll have made money doing it.

And nothing speaks louder than when money talks.
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I doubt 500 units would cover even the R&D phase, let alone casting, production, etc. They'd have to sell a whole lot more than 500 units.

You can always have a custom built.......
 
If Ruger offered a 41 spl in a GP100 frame I would be the first one in line to buy one.

If they made a GP100 framed 44spl I would be the second in line to buy one.

Don't care if they are popular by vote or not. Either one would be my house gun and even if it were through Lipsy, Talo, or Harrison, I will have one.
 
A .41 special six-shooter GP100 would be one RIPE little revolver. Make one in the 3" version with fixed sights and walla.

But it will never happen.
 
A .41 special six-shooter GP100 would be one RIPE little revolver. Make one in the 3" version with fixed sights and walla.
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That would be cool :) or a 5 shot 10mm GP100 set up for moon clips. Or how about a 5 shot GP100 in 41 Rem. magnum?
 
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I used to admire the big bore medium frame conversions, but of late I have been wondering how close I could get with a soft heavy hollowpoint .357.

It's not hard to get a 200 to 1100 fps.
 
If Ruger offered a 41 spl in a GP100 frame I would be the first one in line to buy one.
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It is taking longer than expected, about a year so far and no barrel back yet, but Clements Customs is doing my GP100 3" 38 Special with adjustable sights over in 41 Special, same six shot cylinder. The problem, of course, is the $650 additional investment, but I at least got the NIB GP100 for a good price.
 
Perhaps the distributors like Lipseys and Davidsons are who everyone should be talking to. I think they order a quantity and buy them up, then resell them to us, that way Ruger isn't left holding the bag. That may be the only way Ruger would build them.
 
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