Ruger AR-15

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That thing is easily $500 over-priced. (MSRP). They needed a $1500 MSRP so that the thing could reasonably sell in the $1200-$1400 range (thus, under-cutting the price of a SIG 556).

Does Ruger really think folks will pay as much (or more) for this than they would for a SIG????????????:eek:

Too much (price). Too late (2 years). Too bad.
 
That's not a normal AR-15... look at that gas key. Might be for a piston. Unless they integrated the key into the bolt assembly itself. Which isn't a terrible idea, if done with proper metallurgy. It would eliminate the need for staking, and you couldn't get the key loose.

It'd be nice if Ruger did "redefine" the platform, as their website says they will. Making less points of failure on the bolt, maybe making the design less pin dependent, etc. Otherwise, they're going to be another "we make an AR, too!" maker.

To me, it looks like any average AR lower and receiver but with the forward part of the upper from Sig, who already has the adjustable gas doo-dad.

Bill Ruger's politics got wonky, but he held onto his philosophy about a gun being something that a working man can afford on a couple weeks' pay. Either a) that philosophy is out the window or b) they aren't looking at the pay scale around these here parts!

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I read somewhere else that it has a 1:9 twist barrel, seems a bit out of touch with what the high end AR tweakers want these days.
 
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Yeah.. That is about all I got to say. I didn't expect much from Ruger anyway.
 
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Press release info here, http://chaostheoryfilms.blogspot.com/2009/05/ruger-sr-556.html


(Hmmm Gunblast did a review and got one in 5 minutes)
 

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What a joke!

The last Ruger I bought (SP-101) was defective straight from the factory, and their CS gave me the hardest time about it. With all of their recalls of late, and the way they fought me over a defective $450 gun, they must be crazy to think I want to buy a $2000 gun that they redesigned. :barf:

Oh, and I'll run right out and buy the M77 Hawkeye Alaskan chambered in .416 Ruger, too. :eek:
 
"With significantly improved performance over gas driven rifles" - huh? This one is not "gas-driven"? I got news for them - it's gas-driven sure as the world. It is "piston, gas-driven", as opposed to "direct impingement, gas driven" - they all operate by gas driving *something*.
Hmmm, must be recoil operated...
Does Ruger really think folks will pay as much (or more) for this than they would for a SIG?
Wonder if they know that the Sig is German...and the Germans have maintained a reputation for making sub-standard equipment. :confused: Oh, got a bit sidetracked, was thinking about Ruger. :D

But there will be a market for these...PMags are hard to get ya know...;)
 
I don't know why people keep kicking them in the balls about it... I mean... they've been kicked in the balls so much that they're probably in their throat by now...


It will be interesting to see how this doles out. I was hoping that they'd go along a less- traditional route... making the AR design with less small parts, tool- less buffer tube exchange, a changeable mag well, etc...
 
How much would it cost if you bought a LMT lower, LWRC upper, with York forend, and Sights? I add up about 2,100.00 Just a thought
How about a POF? The top of the line .223 models are $2k. And everything about them is better than the ruger, and quite a few things better than what you mentioned.
 
The way I look at it is the price can always come down.

How can you make the statement "And everything about them is better than the Ruger" when you haven't even held one in your hands let alone shot one.!

Personally a lot of you guys need to remove the fecal matter from your ears, eyes, and mouths. That comes from having your heads up your rectum for too long on this Ruger bashing thing.

Give the rifle a shot before you go bum rapping it.

Just my opinion.
 
How can you make the statement "And everything about them is better than the Ruger" when you haven't even held one in your hands let alone shot one.!
The spec sheet. POF barrels, match grade, from Mike Rock. (very very good barrels) Trigger, timney match, ruger doesn't even say they are using a match grade trigger, meaning, most likley it is jsut a standard AR trigger. Rail system, there are few that compare to the predator system on my POF. POF uses Vltor E-Mod stocks, WAY better than the standard 6 pos on this thing. POF lowers are made from a billet, allowing them to have a ambi bolt release. Must i go on?

Give the rifle a shot before you go bum rapping it.
Oh, ill shoot it, i just won't buy it. I am sure it is a great rifle, but NOT for that price!
 
I'll wait to see what street prices will be, but for a piston gun with chrome plated/lined everything with a good quality hammer forged bbl, flip up sights, and a quad rail..... even an MSRP of $1995 is still a lot of carbine for the money. Try building one for less with the same specs before bitching about it.
 
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