Maverick223
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Nope, just the bread...the 10/22 is the butter.
Ruger AR-15
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Coal Dragger
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We'll see a contented down version later on I'm sure, but right now they are trying to knock everyone's socks off with a ready to go, no accessories needed other than lights and optics, carbine.
They can back it up with well known customer service and warranty. I have few doubts that Ruger will be in business and able to back up their products for a long time to come whereas some of the smaller AR makers I am not so sure about.
I would like to know what size the trigger group pins are, because invariably the carbine will need a better trigger. Let's hope it is standard mil-spec pin size.
They can back it up with well known customer service and warranty. I have few doubts that Ruger will be in business and able to back up their products for a long time to come whereas some of the smaller AR makers I am not so sure about.
I would like to know what size the trigger group pins are, because invariably the carbine will need a better trigger. Let's hope it is standard mil-spec pin size.
gga357
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I was lucky enough to hold one, it's a good rifle.
I have an SR9 and other then sending it back for a week anda half for refit I like it very much. I also got a free mag. Used it up to the same week I shipped it back and never worried.
The bolt carrier is extra long to address the complaint about the off axis force on the carrier key.
I have an SR9 and other then sending it back for a week anda half for refit I like it very much. I also got a free mag. Used it up to the same week I shipped it back and never worried.
The bolt carrier is extra long to address the complaint about the off axis force on the carrier key.
Ruger is noted for backing their products, even if the warranty is not in writing. However, they also have their downside. If they repair your gun they also restore it to factory condition. This means that any custom work like a trigger job will be replaced with original parts. Since many AR owners love to tinker with their guns this sounds like a problem.
Ruger also keeps "critical" parts off the market so important repairs can only be done by Ruger and not gun smiths. One of the attractions of ARs is the standardized modular design and large number of parts suppliers.
Unless Ruger changes their ways on these issues I see them killing demand for their new AR before it can get established.
Ruger also keeps "critical" parts off the market so important repairs can only be done by Ruger and not gun smiths. One of the attractions of ARs is the standardized modular design and large number of parts suppliers.
Unless Ruger changes their ways on these issues I see them killing demand for their new AR before it can get established.
lvcat2004
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No offense, but that's like saying "I was lucky enough to sit in that car's seat, it's a good car"....
unless you plan on parking the car in the garage and not drive it....
I can think of a few better/proven rifles to purchase for $2000.....I just can't buy into this hyper over nothing.
fireman 9731
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Yep... Bill Ruger is rolling over in his grave alright....
ECVMatt
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I was not even going to get into this one...
because it seems like mostly irrational Ruger hate, but I read this:
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SR556.htm
Gunblast is not the best site and they are pro-Ruger for sure, but I do like some of the things about the rifle. I really like the adjustable gas system.
I would be willing to bet they come out with several different versions of the rifle including a basic package with a lower price.
Instead of flying into a Rugerphobic panic, I am going to wait and see what the street price is and how the rifle performs over time.
Bill Ruger is long dead and the folks running the company now have moved to put the past behind them. I feel it is very important for gun owners to stick together and support American gun companies. I sure others will disagree and pick this reply apart, but oh well..
Have a good one,
Matt
because it seems like mostly irrational Ruger hate, but I read this:
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SR556.htm
Gunblast is not the best site and they are pro-Ruger for sure, but I do like some of the things about the rifle. I really like the adjustable gas system.
I would be willing to bet they come out with several different versions of the rifle including a basic package with a lower price.
Instead of flying into a Rugerphobic panic, I am going to wait and see what the street price is and how the rifle performs over time.
Bill Ruger is long dead and the folks running the company now have moved to put the past behind them. I feel it is very important for gun owners to stick together and support American gun companies. I sure others will disagree and pick this reply apart, but oh well..
Have a good one,
Matt
it bears repeating: $2,000...
i'll sit this one out. y'all tell me how great it is after you buy one. i'm not parting w/ $2,000 - or even $1700 (probable street price) for this one. if they can get it on my dealer's shelf for under $1500, i might look at it.
i'll sit this one out. y'all tell me how great it is after you buy one. i'm not parting w/ $2,000 - or even $1700 (probable street price) for this one. if they can get it on my dealer's shelf for under $1500, i might look at it.
Coal Dragger
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If they are all as consistent as the one reviewed in gunblast then it should be a promising carbine. I guess the rumors about Ruger learning how to make a good barrel might be true.
Detritus
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from the pics on the ruger website looks like it takes a standard AR lower. so i'll wait to see which comes first, Ruger made complete uppers, or the wailed over new AWB.
OK ONE complaint... after reading the Gunblast article, there's like 156 Ruger logos on that thing (OK at least 8: handgrip x2, rear sight, buttstock, rails, receiver,forearm and the bolt) is Ruger entering it in NASCAR, or is this just on the test guns?
Maverick223
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Jeff Gordon's new sponsor?
Cpt. America
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Yea at that price I'll get one after I mortgage the house.
Again, if it is in production for 10+ years and develops a sterling rep over those 10+ years, I might consider it. I am not one to buy any new design, especially from a company that has a tarnished rep.
I will let others do my legwork for me.
The firearms systems that I rely upon have been in production and developed a good rep for 59, 28, 60, 58, and 21 years.
I will let others do my legwork for me.
The firearms systems that I rely upon have been in production and developed a good rep for 59, 28, 60, 58, and 21 years.
This will be my 3rd post on this thread. I will the the sarcasm out this time.
Everyone, it is me, or does this really seem outrageous. Well by the looks of the posts most think the same.
Why wouldn't in a time where out RKBA is possibly in danger, and with people loosing there jobs would you put out a $2000.00 platform that really gives nothing new.
Like someone above said. Wouldn't a 10/22WMR be a better option for the US Citizen? Something priced affordable, and that can be used on WMA's for hunting. Something that will defend your family, and be loads of fun without breaking the bank. If you ask me, and none of you did, but Ruger missed the boat. Everyone who wanted an AR15 prolly now has one. At least it seems that way. I know a bunch of people who bought S&W M&P's or RRA. They are going to be very happy with there guns.
The market doesn't need a $2000.00 AR15 clone. It needs modest priced firearms that will arm citizens.
Everyone, it is me, or does this really seem outrageous. Well by the looks of the posts most think the same.
Why wouldn't in a time where out RKBA is possibly in danger, and with people loosing there jobs would you put out a $2000.00 platform that really gives nothing new.
Like someone above said. Wouldn't a 10/22WMR be a better option for the US Citizen? Something priced affordable, and that can be used on WMA's for hunting. Something that will defend your family, and be loads of fun without breaking the bank. If you ask me, and none of you did, but Ruger missed the boat. Everyone who wanted an AR15 prolly now has one. At least it seems that way. I know a bunch of people who bought S&W M&P's or RRA. They are going to be very happy with there guns.
The market doesn't need a $2000.00 AR15 clone. It needs modest priced firearms that will arm citizens.
TexasRifleman
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22WMR has always been a niche thing.
Many of the stores around me don't even carry ammo in 22WMR. If they do it's an occasional box here and there.
I have to think that introducing a rifle with a niche chambering would not be a good financial move.
Ammo supplies would make it hard to sell the rifle.
This is a piston driven upper, not DI.
For a major manufacturer to introduce a line of piston only rifles is a big step. Ruger is in business to sell rifles.
If this prices in under 1500 I think they will sell them as quick as they can make them. But they are going to have to be priced properly.
$2000 won't sell. We'll see what the real price turns out to be soon I suspect.
To many people, though I am not one of them, a piston AR is an entirely new rifle, not just another clone.
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Aquila
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This is *NOT* a "new design"...
TexasRifleman
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Of course not, but it's the first piston AR being sold by a major US manufacturer. That's entirely new.
That's huge.
Huge politically in that the AR is now truly in "common use" since every major maker now has an AR of some kind, and huge for the piston fans because it's no longer a "niche" market.
Because when DHS comes for our Mini-14s, Ruger will be there to sell them the rifles they can use to shoot us. The new rifles sell for a lot more than the Minis, so it's an easy business decision to make, really, when you have to pick a side.
When one Fed LE agency or another goes in to gun down a pro-life group holding a candlelight vigil in the local park, round up people with bumper stickers that complain about taxes, and shoot anyone seen with a Gadsden t-shirt, Ruger will be there to sell them the rifles to do it with.
Oh wait, DHS rescinded that report... A couple times I think...
See, like Texasrifleman, I thought this would be a good thing, politically. But whoever made the video obviously is turned on sexually by the thought of arming what during the Clinton years we called "jack-booted government thugs."
While some have been offended by Ruger's slogan, "Arms Makers for Responsible Citizens", I think it's FAR better than, "We welcome any opportunity to profit from our new overlords!"
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This thread is filled with a lot of fear and hate.
To bad it's supposed to be a discussion about Ruger's newest rifle.
Considering what they're offering, $2000 is a reasonable price. Take any decent AR platform, add on all the features Ruger included, and you'd be hard pressed to beat that price.
I'm interested. I'll wait until more people have a chance to test the SR-556, but I'm interested. And I might even be in the market for one.
To bad it's supposed to be a discussion about Ruger's newest rifle.
Considering what they're offering, $2000 is a reasonable price. Take any decent AR platform, add on all the features Ruger included, and you'd be hard pressed to beat that price.
I'm interested. I'll wait until more people have a chance to test the SR-556, but I'm interested. And I might even be in the market for one.
ROTFLMAO
Ruger still has a bit of a bill to pay. A little fun at their expense is hardly unjustified on a number of levels.
And no doubt any other company (Colt, FN, SIG, Winchester, Remington, Bushmaster, whoever) that put out a big promotion like that, with a countdown, would invite ridicule for the drama-marketing.
To take it out of the politically-charged context of Ruger and "assault weapons", what about Browning and the Cynergy? They didn't even hype it that much, and it really WAS a big change in a somewhat-stale niche. They took crap for it, too. (Yes, there is a whole big world out there that has nothing to do with ARs and AKs.)
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