Ruger ejection problem. Need advice.

[CAnnoneer]

I have noticed my KP89 grabs the shell once every about 100 rounds of CCI Blazer. The attached picture shows the result. It is also visible that the next round is pushed out a bit by the returning slide trying to get into battery. I don't understand why this happens. Some theories:

1) Limpwristing. That is what I thought previously, but as I get better and better with handguns through practice, this explanation becomes less and less plausible. For about the same number of total rounds, my PT92AFS has not coughed once.

2) Too much oil. Maybe I oil too much, so the crud from previous rounds dissolves in the oil and makes a sticky coating that grabs the round.

3) Some problem with the ejector? If so, why not more often?

4) Ammo problem - a weaker load once in a while?

I am thinking of calling Ruger and asking what's up, but maybe some of you guys have had the same problem and can let me know why this happens. Many thanks in advance.

P.S. Sorry about the crappy picture - there is some software problem with my camera too. When it rains, it pours.

 

[chaim]

Only with CCI Blazer? My suggestion is to avoid CCI Blazer then. There is other good "budget" ammo out there. Many people swear by WWB (I liked the Winchester White Box in 9mm for years), I love Fiocchi and S&B, and of course there are many others to choose from. Guns are notorious for liking some ammo and not other ammo. It is very possible that your P89 simply doesn't like CCI Blazer in which case, what is an extra $0.25-$2.00 a box to be able to shoot reliably.

 

[CajunBass]

If I knew it was only with that brand of ammo, I wouldn't worry about. I'd shoot that brand at the range if I wanted to, and just make sure I had something that worked 100% for "serious social work."

 

[lee n. field]

roughly how many rounds through the gun so far?

Definitly give Ruger a call.

 

[CAnnoneer]

About 2,000 rounds through the Ruger. I bought it NIB last August, so not even an year old. It always had this problem with CCI, but previously I thought it was limpwristing. Since CCI is all it has seen, it is probably a good idea indeed to get a couple of boxes of WWB and see if the same happens.

 

[gudel]

I would send it back. I have used this CCI alum case in my 9mm, 40 and 45, they all work 100%.
Send it back and let them figure it out.

 

[nswtex]

This is the exact problem that my uncle's P85 produces about once every other mag. We use the remington UMC from Academy. How does one go about contacting a manufacturer like Ruger for info on sending in a gun to have work done.

 

[lee n. field]

How does one go about contacting a manufacturer like Ruger for info on sending in a gun to have work done.

Call them.




http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/SE-Prescott.html

From Ruger's website:

"Autoloading pistols and PC Carbines are serviced by our Prescott, AZ facility. For parts and service for this firearm, please contact:

"Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.
200 Ruger Road
Prescott, AZ 86301
Telephone: 928-778-6555
Fax: 928-778-6633"

 

[Ken Rainey]

Was the pistol (and magazine) relatively clean when this happened? Especially the chamber and extractor - crud will build up in and behind the extractor sometimes and cause problems? Does the extractor move freely and is it not chipped? What I'm getting at is a lot of the time it's just crud in the wrong places that will cause one to come to a halt. If all the parts are in good shape and cleaned and properly oiled and you have this problem you can suspect the ammo.

 

[CAnnoneer]

Mechanically, the pistol seems in excellent condition. The extractor is massive, unchipped, and tight but movable. It extracts just fine. Something else is going on.

Another possible explanation is overtight slide return spring. Crud does collect in the bed if the slide, but this should not produce a problem after just 100 rounds from superclean condition.

Thanks for the phone numbers and contact number. Will call.

 

[lee n. field]

Just a thought: does the recoil spring have a specific forward/backward preferred orientation, and if so, is yours backward? That might screw things up if it did.

 

[JohnKSa]

Possible causes.

Mag spring is far too strong.
Extractor is too weak or is damaged/defective.
Ejector is damaged/defective/missing.