Ruger LCP 380 auto
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buschpilot
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ruger LCP380
Yes, I bought one in AZ for 269.00 Added it to my ccw and it shoots great, no problem qualifying with it.
Yes, I bought one in AZ for 269.00 Added it to my ccw and it shoots great, no problem qualifying with it.
He is DEFINITELY wrong. I just searched through my manual and it simply isn't in there. Don't take my word for it. Here's a link to the entire manual as a pdf straight from Ruger.
http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/PDF/InstructionManuals/65.pdf
You can open it and do a search for the term "dry fire" or "dry firing". There is not warning not to do it. That being said, I still would not do it frequently without a snap cap, but your friend is wrong about it being in the manual.
alamo
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It looks like Ruger should have copied Kel-Tec's owners manual as well
Phydeaux642
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I finally got to see and fondle an LCP this week. Pretty sweet. I really like the way they are finished out and IMHO look nicer than the Kel-tec. I have a P32 which I have with me quite often and it shoots well, so, I will say nothing bad about Kel-tec. Who knows, I may even pick up a P3AT at some point. I'm third on the list at my LGS for the LCP, but who knows how long the wait will be. Current price - $275.00.
alamo
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Don't do it. There's a picture of broken an LCP firing pin circulating around that was originally reported on the SIG Forum. Fella dry fired it 80+ times and it broke in two.
Kel-Tec warns against dryfiring and Ruger should too and probably will before long.
The official Ruger clarification is that occasional dry-fire such as pulling the trigger on the 8th round if you don't count while you're shooting is OK. Continuous and extended dry-fire is not.
That comes from the corporate spokesman.
Denis
That comes from the corporate spokesman.
Denis
Guillermo
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Hopefully someone will pound it with a few thousand high pressure loads so that we can see how it holds up.
Why anyone would spend hundreds of dollars on a handgun any not buy snap caps doesn't make any sense to me. I own snap caps for every caliber I own, I like to throw a snap cap in the middle of a clip so I can practice quickly clearing a FTF. I even have snap caps For my 12 gauge and rifles, they are a cheap invest and a great practice/training tool.
On a side note I purchased a LCP for $259 from my local dealer, He had a list of deposits and it still only took 7 days from deposit to P/U.
So far I have 300 rounds of WWB (Walmart) flat nose target rounds through it to break it in at the range with no FTF's. The first 100 rounds I had a few dented ejected brass, but by the time I had 300 rounds through it all the brass was perfect. Funny thing is I can buy 100rds WWB .40 S&W ($26.95) cheaper than 100rds WWB .380 ($29.95}
I have 2ea boxes of Hydra-shock, Cor-Bon Powerball, Cor-Bon DPX and Speer Gold Dots coming in the mail (hopefully Monday) and some Hornady hollow points I bought local to see what works best for carry ammo.
The only problem I had with the LCP is that I only have one clip LOL, come monday I will be at my dealers ordering 2 more clips, my guns get shot and reloading every 6 rounds sucks.
On a side note I purchased a LCP for $259 from my local dealer, He had a list of deposits and it still only took 7 days from deposit to P/U.
So far I have 300 rounds of WWB (Walmart) flat nose target rounds through it to break it in at the range with no FTF's. The first 100 rounds I had a few dented ejected brass, but by the time I had 300 rounds through it all the brass was perfect. Funny thing is I can buy 100rds WWB .40 S&W ($26.95) cheaper than 100rds WWB .380 ($29.95}
I have 2ea boxes of Hydra-shock, Cor-Bon Powerball, Cor-Bon DPX and Speer Gold Dots coming in the mail (hopefully Monday) and some Hornady hollow points I bought local to see what works best for carry ammo.
The only problem I had with the LCP is that I only have one clip LOL, come monday I will be at my dealers ordering 2 more clips, my guns get shot and reloading every 6 rounds sucks.
Well the LCP I picked up had two mags but I wonder if the guy who sold it, private sale, simply added one as Ruger says it comes with one. Ruger sells them for $27.99 each. On GB they ususally get past $33. I ordered 3 from Ruger we will see how long it takes.
So far my LCP rocks!
I'd never buy a Ruger LCP as it's just another example of the big guy screwing over the little one. However, at the same time, I'm not willing to bet $250 on a gun that might or might not work without 2 trips to keltec..... So, I'm buying a NAA Guardian .380 which is reputedly 100% reliable. Which, is essentially a slightly larger copy of a seecamp..... I'm just not willing to pay $750 for a USED seecamp. I suppose everyone has their price. Although NAA might not be "the big man", it's still kind of a copy.
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...boredelmo
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falkon....100%? reallllllllllllly?
RUT
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Falkon said: "I'd never buy a Ruger LCP as it's just another example of the big guy screwing over the little one. However, at the same time, I'm not willing to bet $250 on a gun that might or might not work without 2 trips to keltec....."
Oh the irony. Don't want the LCP because Ruger (the big guy) screwed over Kel-Tec (the little guy). And what did Kel-Tec do to all the little guys who bought their defective guns?
I don't care if Ruger screwed over Kel-Tec. I like my LCP, and it weighs, literally, half as much as an NAA .380. Whoever wants that pocket brick can have it.
Oh the irony. Don't want the LCP because Ruger (the big guy) screwed over Kel-Tec (the little guy). And what did Kel-Tec do to all the little guys who bought their defective guns?
I don't care if Ruger screwed over Kel-Tec. I like my LCP, and it weighs, literally, half as much as an NAA .380. Whoever wants that pocket brick can have it.
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I just agreed to buy this gun for $300 from a guy who only shot 25 rounds through his. I can't wait. Picking it up Thursday afternoon.
It's going to be my new bike riding and jogging gun as well as a pocket gun for when I need to wear a tucked in shirt.
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I just agreed to buy this gun for $300 from a guy who only shot 25 rounds through his. I can't wait. Picking it up Thursday afternoon.
It's going to be my new bike riding and jogging gun as well as a pocket gun for when I need to wear a tucked in shirt.
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I was at my gunshop the other day to pick up a Kahr PM-9, and I asked about the LCP. He said the dealers haven't been able to get any for a while because Ruger had a problem they wanted to work out. They started production again, each dealer gets 2 LCP's, but he thinks there is still a problem. He had one from a customer that would not lock the slide back on the last round. He was going to shoot the gun (a box of ammo) before sending the gun back to Ruger. He advised me to wait a couple of months before buying one, if I ever do. It sure is light, and small.
RUT
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>>He had one from a customer that would not lock the slide back on the last round<<
That's cuz they don't... by design.
That's cuz they don't... by design.
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This dealer is either a moron or a liar, and quite possibly both. RUT is correct--the gun does not lock open on the last round. If this guy's information is so pitifully lacking that he doesn't know this basic fact about the gun, how can you trust any other "information" he might have? More importantly, how can you trust him enough to buy a gun from him?
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You want to use a Blackhawk as a framing hammer? I hope it's not a blued one, since the grip frame is aluminum. Not sure how well it will stand up to that.
You've handled a KT in a store, and read about them on the internet. You've read reviews of the Ruger. Have you ever shot either? Have you got any comparative reliability tests that you've done? Or even durability? Where are you qualifications for coming out and bashing one, and lauding the other? Just their respective reps?
Moreover, perhaps someone can explain to me the logic behind shopping for a pocket pistol based on which one is bigger and heavier. Because it feels more solid? Because more weight automatically equals better quality? Here i thought pocket pistols were supposed to be small and light.
Rugers aren't big and heavy because they're made better. they're big and heavy because they have to be for their investment cast parts to have the same strength as more conventional (and lighter) ones. I know in about four seconds someone is going to start screaming about "Ruger-only data." Yeah, you can shoot a .45 LC loaded up to .44 Mag levels out of a big Ruger. Care to guess why? It's not because it's a Ruger, it's because it's a .44 Mag with different sized holes drilled in it. Same deal applies with the Anaconda.
As far as Rugers being spectacular for reliability and product finishing, etc, that just ain't so. Anyone who wildly jumps around and yells about "rugged, reliable, Ruger firearms," needs to be bludgeoned with their own ruger. They break, just like anything else. If you haven't broken one, it's because you haven't shot it enough. "Oh! Oh! Oh! I've got 500 problem free rounds through my Ruger _______!" Call me back when you've got ten thousand down the pipe.
I have four Rugers, two super Blackhawks, two Bisley Vaqueros, and my dad's got a pair of New Vaqs, and a pair of Single Sixes. Care to guess how many of them have been 100% trouble free? None. That's right, zero. the 'Hawks have skipped chambers, slipped the base pin, failed to fire, broken a transfer bar, and one of them lost a sear. the Bisleys, when new, weren't even close to hitting where the sights pointed. One of them, on the very first full power round I put through it, the plastic grip fell in half. I've yet to even shoot a match with them. Dad's New Vaqs have both had internal parts break, cylinders lock, pins slip, etc. Getting the Single Sixes reliable enough just for practice guns has been a year long oddessy. However, with intelligent action work, and proper maintainence, they can be made into effective guns.
I've also got a p380 and a p32. I've had the .32 for six years, most of that time as either primary or secondary CCW. It's choked a time or two, but usually only when it's been in my pocket for several months at a stretch, and needed an oil change and lint removal service. The .380 hasn't had any probs other than not hitting where the "sights" point, but it's still got less than 1k rds through it.
Sorry for ranting, but guns are guns. Very few are trustworthy from the box, but most can be made serviceable. There is no such thing as 100% reliability. That's why you practice malfunction drills, and also what BUGs are for. And its as a BUG that KTs shine. The new Ruger-Tec may well shine there as well, but maybe ans a BUG for a slightly lighter primary, just to keep things even.
alamo
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I liked your posting Mat, not doormat. When the Ruger LCP was announced and not even shipped, the forum was full of those proclaiming it to be completely reliable and problem free. And that has been the case for some and but not for others, just like a lot of pistols.
Unfortunately, it's not enough for some to talk about how great their pistol is and how much they like it - theirs can only be a great pistol if they denigrate any competing pistols.
Unfortunately, it's not enough for some to talk about how great their pistol is and how much they like it - theirs can only be a great pistol if they denigrate any competing pistols.
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