clem629
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I've seen $255 to $295 Real street prices.
Have yet to see one but I think I need one
Have yet to see one but I think I need one
Ruger LCP 380 auto
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alamo
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I'd be curious to know if it really is in the manual or not. A fella posted on the below thread that it is not in the manual. He called Ruger - see posting # 16. The Ruger expert said that dry firing without a snap cap is fine.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=840841
I gave the Prescott facility a call and was put through to a friendly gentleman who advised me that there is nothing structurally about the LCP that makes it vulnerable to damage from dry firing. He did suggest that an empty case or snap cap would provide some cushion for the pin, but affirmed that dry firing without one should not damage the firearm.
As an aside, when I called I specified that I had a technical question about the LCP and the operator put me through to the person she said "was the right guy to talk to" so I am under the impression he spoke based on actual knowledge and not a generalized sense of whether dry firing causes damage.
Then there's the posting on the Sig forum, with pictures, of the guy that broke his firing pin when dry firing:
http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/1081078911
Regardless of what the Ruger expert or manual says or doesn't say, I would always use a snap cap.
alamo
if the firing pin set up is like the kt set up, which according to the schmetacis it is, a snap cap is needed to cushion the forward movement of the firing pin. I will again redirect my comment to the person who told me it was in the Ruger manual not to dryfire to confirm whether it is b. s. or just b. s... I don't want to mis lead anyone either. but knowing the design of the kt firing pin assembly DRY FIRING IT IS A REAL NO NO. If in doubt SNAP CAPS
if the firing pin set up is like the kt set up, which according to the schmetacis it is, a snap cap is needed to cushion the forward movement of the firing pin. I will again redirect my comment to the person who told me it was in the Ruger manual not to dryfire to confirm whether it is b. s. or just b. s... I don't want to mis lead anyone either. but knowing the design of the kt firing pin assembly DRY FIRING IT IS A REAL NO NO. If in doubt SNAP CAPS
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ALAMO. I again talked to the owner of the lcp that has the shootin range about the dry firing statement. he says it is in the ruger manual DEFINITELY. He also told me that as of today his lcp has now 2200 flawless, not one malfunction rounds through it with one cleaning at 1000 rounds and same recoil springs, now signs of any wear and tear .
this is not a shoot seldom carry often gun. He says he will shoot it until it breaks, Hope he lives long enough
This is a good honest person to, not one who would inflate the reliability of the lcp any more than he would do with any other gun, he owns. he buys um to shoot not to look at. He is a multiple gun armorer and knows even the best of them can and will give issues.
It sure looks to me like ruger has made a RELIABLE gun right out of the box.
ALAMO. I again talked to the owner of the lcp that has the shootin range about the dry firing statement. he says it is in the ruger manual DEFINITELY. He also told me that as of today his lcp has now 2200 flawless, not one malfunction rounds through it with one cleaning at 1000 rounds and same recoil springs, now signs of any wear and tear .
this is not a shoot seldom carry often gun. He says he will shoot it until it breaks, Hope he lives long enough
This is a good honest person to, not one who would inflate the reliability of the lcp any more than he would do with any other gun, he owns. he buys um to shoot not to look at. He is a multiple gun armorer and knows even the best of them can and will give issues.It sure looks to me like ruger has made a RELIABLE gun right out of the box.
MaterDei
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I've been looking and looking but nobody in Houston seems to have them yet...
Jim PHL
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FWIW, I had a P3AT. Nothing carries better it's so small, thin and light. Mine was totally reliable. I traded it away and won't be buying another OR the Ruger. In the end, it was the .380 as a defensive round that had me switch to a j-frame. Rather have a treasury load in my pocket than any .380 offering.
I am definitely NOT trying to start an "any caliber is better than no-gun at all" thread. I just felt like I had to post something in this thread since just about everybody else has!
I am definitely NOT trying to start an "any caliber is better than no-gun at all" thread. I just felt like I had to post something in this thread since just about everybody else has!
alamo
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That's good to know. Someone needs to tell that to the Ruger "expert" who told that fella that it was OK to dry fire.
That's good news. I went to the range today and put 106 rounds through my 2G P-3AT, that makes about 500 rounds on it. I've got a 1G P-3AT as well with more mileage on it.
JohnBT
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"He says he will shoot it until it breaks"
Can you even wear out a gun shooting .380s?
Can you even wear out a gun shooting .380s?
doc540
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couple of questions:
With a chambered round the LCP's "safety" is the weight and length of the trigger pull?
And is it as loud of the proverbial AMT Backup .380, (an ear ringer if there ever was one)?
With a chambered round the LCP's "safety" is the weight and length of the trigger pull?
And is it as loud of the proverbial AMT Backup .380, (an ear ringer if there ever was one)?
doc540
My guess is probably yes, , both small , short barrell handguns. I never shoot without shooting muffs, so noise is a non factor for me. I damn near ruined my hearing in my younger days for not wearing what was back then "sissy" protectors. Now i wish I had did the sissy thing. No hearing on left ear, with aid, pretty good in the right ear. so I NEVER shoot without protectors
My guess is probably yes, , both small , short barrell handguns. I never shoot without shooting muffs, so noise is a non factor for me. I damn near ruined my hearing in my younger days for not wearing what was back then "sissy" protectors. Now i wish I had did the sissy thing. No hearing on left ear, with aid, pretty good in the right ear. so I NEVER shoot without protectors
Hello,
First post here. I've search and read through all the LCP threads I could fine here but still am left wondering about the trigger and the shooting qualities of the LCP. In the store I dry-fired it (with permission) and it felt weird with the long, hard trigger pull (like a heavy-duty cap gun). I suppose that's the way these small pistols all are. After the first shot, are the rest the same trigger pull or does the action recock itself, changing the trigger pull? Do you find it hard to stay on target if you have the long, heavy trigger pull on each round?
Please, responses only from people who have actually fired this pistol. On other threads there are tons of "experts" claiming to know all about this pistol and it's reliability, yet have never held one let alone fired it.
Thanks for any input.
Doug
Jocko,
Could you please put me in touch with the guy who has 2200 rounds through his?
First post here. I've search and read through all the LCP threads I could fine here but still am left wondering about the trigger and the shooting qualities of the LCP. In the store I dry-fired it (with permission) and it felt weird with the long, hard trigger pull (like a heavy-duty cap gun). I suppose that's the way these small pistols all are. After the first shot, are the rest the same trigger pull or does the action recock itself, changing the trigger pull? Do you find it hard to stay on target if you have the long, heavy trigger pull on each round?
Please, responses only from people who have actually fired this pistol. On other threads there are tons of "experts" claiming to know all about this pistol and it's reliability, yet have never held one let alone fired it.
Thanks for any input.
Doug
Jocko,
Could you please put me in touch with the guy who has 2200 rounds through his?
Hey folks, this is my first reply but like everyone else I need to put my 2 cents worth in. I got my hands on the LCP this past Sat and yes they do look alike in ways but they are different. I'm not worried where a builder got his idea but rather that it is refined. The Kel Tek is a good gun, but it is like holding a square piece of wood compared to the Ruger. I liked the indention on the grip of the LCP for the thumb and the trigger guard was larger which will help anyone if they have on gloves or a large hand. On the KT my small finger was pinched some when squeezing the trigger and there was no way I could operate the gun if I had gloves on. Also the slide seemed to be smoother than the KT and the trigger pull was longer before you hit the sweet spot but the actual weight of the pull was about the same. Again the KT seems to be a good gun but it is ugly to me. If your in to that well you need the LCP. The edges are smoother all around the gun and it just has a better feel. The prices here in NE La. are running from 269 to $299.00. At the same price why not buy a gun that looks better and should shoot just as well. When I get mine in I'll be back to let you know how it is.
sidheshooter
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So long as we are on the subject...
Hi all, new to the forum. Not much to add save for the fact that I have a serious case of G.A.S. for this little Ruger, and am looking forward to more user reports. Oh, that and this:
Though at $649 for the kahr, one might be better off getting both the lcp and the p3at and making their own decision as to which carrys better...
Hi all, new to the forum. Not much to add save for the fact that I have a serious case of G.A.S. for this little Ruger, and am looking forward to more user reports. Oh, that and this:
Though at $649 for the kahr, one might be better off getting both the lcp and the p3at and making their own decision as to which carrys better...
MCgunner
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I'll trust Ruger quality or KT customer service over Kahr. I'm sorta wanting the LCP at this point.
1KPerDay
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I wonder if some people are confusing the dryfiring issue with the SR9 that supposedly goes blooie if you dry fire it without the mag installed.
lloydkristmas
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As of right now, Praco guns in Waco TX has one for 299
DougT
The trigger works the same way as the P3AT. It is a double action, but is pre-cocked by the cycling of the slide. Every shot has the same trigger pull, but you can only strike the bullet once.
If you let the trigger reset half way it will not fire. You must let the trigger return to the correct position.
IMO the trigger is not "heavy". This is a CCW pocket gun, not a target gun. It is by no means heavy like a Taurus revolver double action. I feel it is fine for what the gun is; An anytime close range self defense pistol.
The trigger works the same way as the P3AT. It is a double action, but is pre-cocked by the cycling of the slide. Every shot has the same trigger pull, but you can only strike the bullet once.
If you let the trigger reset half way it will not fire. You must let the trigger return to the correct position.
IMO the trigger is not "heavy". This is a CCW pocket gun, not a target gun. It is by no means heavy like a Taurus revolver double action. I feel it is fine for what the gun is; An anytime close range self defense pistol.
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