Ruger LCP Range Report

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Got my Ruger LCP yesterday. Stopped by the gun shop after work. They had previously said they didn't know when they'd have them, so I dropped in to ask, and there it was.

Shot 100 rounds of Fiocci FMJ and 14 rounds of Speer Gold Dot "Personal Protection" hollowpoints. All at 10 yards, which is as close as my outdoor range lets us shoot.

Slow aimed fire: All rounds within a 9" circle. For me, that's OK shooting with a very small gun and sights that are hardly there at all. I wasn't even trying very hard--just pointed the thing and squeezed the trigger. This made me happy. If you aren't impressed, blame me, not the gun. Fioccis maybe grouping a little smaller than the Gold Dots.

Point shooting, with right index finger extended, pulling the trigger with left index finger. (I'm right handed--this is how I do it.) Accurate, but then I noticed that the slide was cutting the top of my left thumb, so that was the end of that. Lowering my left hand and still using my left index finger on the trigger felt very uncomfortable.

Shooting from the hip. About as bad as with any other gun (but with a 6-round magazine, not a useful thing to do at all).

Trigger pull long, but smooth. Recoil not at all unpleasant. Reliability fine, except for a series of three or four consecutive stovepipes about 30 rounds in. I was shooting one-handed and maybe limp-wristing, which I had thought was a myth. (I've tried to get my Glock to stovepipe and never could). Field stripping very easy; reassembly is, too, once you get the hang of how to put the pin back in.

Fits very nicely in the front pocket of a pair of jeans.
 
glocks

Ikper day. HOPEFULLY NO ONE shoots a handgun that way. certainly the glocks did not fair well but IMO none were designed to be shot that way. I wonder how many would have worked right being shot gangster style. Not defending glocks eithe,r but I have shot glocks for over 20 years and never had any limpwristing issues, nor have I with event the small little 380 and 32 auto like the kel-tec..
 
Please do this test: carry your .380 in a pocket holster (any kind will do) for a week or so...then take it to the range and fire two clips through it...then tell me if it does not jam up on the second round...k? See...my P3AT works just fine if I clean it/lube it and go straight to the range. Carry it a week or so in your pocket and then having to use it = beau coup malfunctions. I want a real world test.
 
Dawg fv

I never had those issues with any of my 3 kt's, I could clean mine and go right out and shoot it and it gave beau cue malfunctions.
 
Any feel for how durable the LCP is?

There's a thread going on at rugerforum.com, with someone saying over and over again that if shot regularly the LCP will be worn out in short order, within a few thousand shots.

I can accept that, if true, but I don't like to baby my stuff.
 
"Please do this test: carry your .380 in a pocket holster (any kind will do) for a week or so...then take it to the range and fire two clips through it...then tell me if it does not jam up on the second round...k? See...my P3AT works just fine if I clean it/lube it and go straight to the range. Carry it a week or so in your pocket and then having to use it = beau coup malfunctions. I want a real world test."

I'll do that.
 
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I was shooting one-handed and maybe limp-wristing, which I had thought was a myth. (I've tried to get my Glock to stovepipe and never could).
FYI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsktLC-hzx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE44B...eature=related

/hijack
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Interesting video, but the grip is too abnormal. With the Glock the frame is coming back under recoil at too near slide velocity for the gun to function. With the Beretta the function was 100% until the last round where the excessive recoil from the poor grip caused the mag to lose control of the round and it FTF hitting above the chamber mouth. The other guns were heavy enough to function and the grip safeties forced more thumb pressure on the grip. Note that the SIG and XD Failed to lock back on the last shot -- frame following the slide too closely.

I've watched my sister limp wrist my Beretta .25 and what is going on is the gun follows the empty and "catches" it as the slide moves forward. This can and does happen with any gun if the shooter is too loose in resisting recoil with a more or less normal grip.

I'd call the failures shown in the video to be ejection failures from an inadequate grip rather than "limp wristing" which I'd define as a normal grip but without enough resistance to recoil. Splitting hairs perhaps, but trying to aid in understanding of why various failures happen and reach consensus on nomenclature.



Please do this test: carry your .380 in a pocket holster (any kind will do) for a week or so...then take it to the range and fire two clips through it...then tell me if it does not jam up on the second round...k? See...my P3AT works just fine if I clean it/lube it and go straight to the range. Carry it a week or so in your pocket and then having to use it = beau coup malfunctions. I want a real world test.
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This is a very good point and why you need to regularly shoot your carry gun and ammo exactly as you would if it was "for real". Whenever I bring a new gun into the carry rotation I try to shoot it weekly for the first month, then twice monthly for the next couple of months, monthly for a few months and then whenever.

--wally.
 
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If u dry fire the lcp, u will damage the firing pin. THAT IS NOT THE GUNS FAULT. It is not a striker fired gun. Kel-tec are the same way. One ask if the ruger was not very durable as far as round count goes. There has been no Ruger statement that these guns are good for 5000 or 6000 rounds and then they are shot to hell. The only company that I know of that makes that statment with their small guns is kel-tec, they state 6000 rounds. Now the Ruger has sure copied alot of the kt design, so could or should the life expectancy be at least the same or even longer YES. I seriously doubt if you will shoot the Ruger lcp out in 6000 rounds, , Again Ruger makes a good long lasting gun BUT this is Rugers first entry into the "small" world of CCW guns and weighing under 10 ounces, one should realize that a 2 pound gun should be more durable down the road than a 10 ounce gun. Again my feeling on the Ruger is that 99% of us will never see the day we shoot out the Ruger LCP. I have stated before I do have a friend who has a shooting range and they are shooting his lcp until it breaks and it has last count 1600 flawless rounds through it. Not one malfunction and this is with many different shooters to. My feelings is that quality and "good" materials plays alot of the durability and longevity of any handgun. Hopefully Ruger has done their homework on the LCP. My bet is that they have... Man the guy broke every rule you could do on that little gun. it is not striker fired and he admitted to dry firing it 80 to 100 times (wth no snap caps). If you can't see the forrest for the trees, you should not have a chain saw. Damn almost like saying my gun was in a house fire and the damn blueing all came off. Bad gun or Bad house fire???u decide.
 
Handled one yesterday, workmanship is an improvement over the KT, but still reminds me of the KT. Prefer my NAA Guardian, but will probably get one in a week or two. Like any other tool, it has a use from time to time.
 
Ruger has tested several of their earlier P-Series pistols to 25,000 rounds.
I'm told by Ruger they've tested the LCP to 1000 rounds.
Draw your own conclusions.
This does not mean the LCP is junk, it simply means the design package has limitations, no matter who makes it.
People are already trying to treat it like a normal full-sized pistol in their expectations, and those expectations are unrealistic. :)
Nothing in this says don't buy it, just understand it.
Denis
 
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1000 rounds, sure does not sound like a ruger statement. Time will tell but already we have one out there with 1600 perfect rounds and not one sign of any wear. Not sure Ruger would ever put out a gun designed for 1000 rounds,, not sure any company would be that foolish to do that either. Even kt;'s mini guns are rated at 6000 rounds, so IMO no way would ruger make one that would be any less reliable, and cetainly from all reports so far the Ruger is much higher quality made than the kt.
 
Please do this test: carry your .380 in a pocket holster (any kind will do) for a week or so...then take it to the range and fire two clips through it...then tell me if it does not jam up on the second round...k? See...my P3AT works just fine if I clean it/lube it and go straight to the range. Carry it a week or so in your pocket and then having to use it = beau coup malfunctions. I want a real world test.
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The ONLY time I ever cleaned my P3AT before shooting it was when I first bought it...no probs so far...
 
OK, wrong conclusion.
Don't put words in my mouth. :)
I did not say the gun is rated at 1000 rounds nor did I say the P-Series pistols will only fire 25,000 rounds.
The point was to illustrate the relative difference in lifespans and expectations.
Ruger did not tell me the gun is rated at 1000 rounds, just that they've tested it to 1000 rounds with no problems.
Denis
 
Who needs an LCP???

Love my M&P340 j-frame for pocket carry. Buying an LCP makes NO SENSE FOR ME!!! :rolleyes:

Ordered my LCP Wednesday - never even seen or held one. Crazy... :D
 
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