stinger 327
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Using a scope?
Using the factory peep sight?
Using the factory peep sight?
Yes I agree hard to see a bright orange dot at 100 yards with peep sight.Depends on the rifle. The round should be good over 300y, but your sights might not have the adjustment to shoot that and your rifle might not be accurate enough to do it.
Grasshopper, the sights have little to do with the effective range of any cartridge. Go to your local public library and read everything they have about firearms.
What's 300 meters? I'm old school.correction to distance. The Army trains that the maximum effective range for a point target of the 5.56 NATO is 550 meters. That is with iron sights. A soldier is expected to HIT center of mass at 300m. That said, your mini might not be up to the task even if the round is. A Marine is expected to hit COM at 500m. Wish they would have let us shoot that far....
Stinger - you live in CA, or CT, or MA? I could see a school library banning books on firearms, but a public library? That isn't passing the sniff test (and I'm used to smelling diapers right now).
Even Zatochi? The blind swordsman?stinger - that isn't adjustment. Up/down/left/right adjustments. A scope makes it easier to see the dot, but that doesn't make the rifle more accurate. A person with peeps could put every round in that dot, without seeing it, if they know where on the paper it is and the rifle can group that well.
1 meter is like 3 feet 3 inches. So 300 meters is probably about 315 yards.What's 300 meters? I'm old school.
315 yards? The range only goes up to 100 yards.1 meter is like 3 feet 3 inches. So 300 meters is probably about 315 yards.
That's a very interesting way of putting it. Never thought of it that way.stinger 327 - especially zatochi. He was an expert because he could feel the difference in his body position. Once you got him on target, he would just have to repeat the exact same motion. Since he was a lot more practiced in feeling his body position, he would be more likely able to repeat it exactly. You could use your caldwell rest and enough weight and not use the sights. Once you got the gun pointed at exactly the right spot, sights wouldn't be needed. You could trade out the peeps for standard irons with no change in point of impact (assuming you were able to change out the sights without disturbing the rifle), no matter where the new sights were pointed. That is why we change the sights location, not the barrels position in the stock when we make adjustments. The sights are for the shooter, not the rifle.
"What's 300 meters? I'm old school. " Pretty sure the metric system was around BEFORE the SAE system we use here in the US (inches, feet, etc.)
He didn't ask about the effective range of the .223 cartridge, but about the effective range of a Ruger mini-14. That question does indeed depend greatly on the particular model of mini-14, as well as what kind of sights it is fitted with (the .223 cartridge is certainly capable of hitting at ranges that make it hard to clearly see the target with the unaided eye, if the rifle and the shooter are up to the task).Grasshopper, the sights have little to do with the effective range of any cartridge. Go to your local public library and read everything they have about firearms.