Ruger P95 Discontinued. Last of the P Series

[kokapelli]

Guns, cars and guitars. All the same. Anything worth having is either out of production or extremely overpriced.

I don't know about guitars, but compared to guns cars are a real bargain.

You can buy a very functional car for $14,000 that is guaranteed for 100,000 miles or ten years and when you consider all the electronics and mechanical parts are in a car, guns are a big ripoff.

You will drive a car for years with the engine running at 2,000 to 3,000 revolutions a minute or higher for years and now consider how many slide strokes a gun can handle before it wears out.

I can't even imagine how many explosions occurs in a car engine over all the years it's driven, but surely it's well into the millions, or maybe billions, now compare that to how many rounds a gun can handle before it fails.

Cars are a real bargain and guns are anything but.

 

[wanderinwalker]

Beg to differ RE: guns and cars. Guns are a bargain when you consider what their service life is versus purchase price.

You can take a box stock Ruger P-series and expect it to run 50k rounds. Let's say that's 9mm at current pricing ($25/100?). $250 per 1k * 50 = $12500 of ammo. If the purchase price of the pistol was $350, you've spend almost 36x that on ammo.

I have a hard time believing my $14k Toyota Corolla will last long enough to spend half a million on just gas. (Figuring current price of $3.50 a gallon that's near 5 million miles. As a point of comparison.)

At any rate, I always thought the old P-90 was a nice .45 but never got to hold or try one out. I was a bit shocked when I noticed they were no longer catalogued. And now the P-95 is gone as well. (And let me say, having fired a P-95 and a P-345, I found them to be horribly clunky, but they worked reliably.)

 

[kokapelli]

Beg to differ RE: guns and cars. Guns are a bargain when you consider what their service life is versus purchase price.

You can take a box stock Ruger P-series and expect it to run 50k rounds. Let's say that's 9mm at current pricing ($25/100?). $250 per 1k * 50 = $12500 of ammo. If the purchase price of the pistol was $350, you've spend almost 36x that on ammo.

I have a hard time believing my $14k Toyota Corolla will last long enough to spend half a million on just gas. (Figuring current price of $3.50 a gallon that's near 5 million miles. As a point of comparison.)

Gas vs ammo? what does that have to do with what you get for the money with cars vs guns?

You can spend thousands on one pistol and all it does is smack a primer with a firing pin and slams a slide backward and forward.

Compare that with a car that has a sophisticated braking systems, anti skid system, doors, windows, lights, sound system, very sophisticated electronics, comfortable seats usually for four or more people, air bags, a very complicated transmissions and an engine that has city times more moving parts, is also infinitely more complicated than any gun but will still handle millions more internal explosions than any gun.

What you feed the car or the gun is another story, but when comparing what you get for your dollar when purchasing the two, the car is a steel.

 

[HOOfan_1]

What you feed the car or the gun is another story, but when comparing what you get for your dollar when purchasing the two, the car is a steel.

Well...cars usually require a lot more maintenance over their life time...and that maintenance is a lot more expensive too.

 

[kokapelli]

Well...cars usually require a lot more maintenance over their life time...and that maintenance is a lot more expensive too.

That's true, but I'm just comparing the actual product.

 

[JTQ]

kokapelli wrote,
I don't know about guitars, but compared to guns cars are a real bargain.

Heck, for a few hundred dollars you can buy a new gun when you turn 21, and for the average shooter, that gun will last the rest of your life, and most likely the life of your children.

For $25,000 you can buy a new car at age 21, which by the way, is a pretty big loan for your average 21 year old, and it may last the average owner 10 years. Next you buy a $30,000 car (with another loan) that may last you another 10 years, then you buy a ..., well, you get the idea. If you're frugal, you could stretch your way through five cars and about $150,000 worth of those cars through your lifetime vs. a single $500 gun for a lifetime. I think the gun is the bargain tool.

I'm convinced one of the reasons guns have become so popular over the past 30 years is because cars have become less of a bargain. The guy that used to buy a car in the '50's or 60's and tinker around with it, now buys a gun and tinkers around with it simply because guns are affordable and cars aren't anymore.

 

[kokapelli]

I'm convinced one of the reasons guns have become so popular over the past 30 years is because cars have become less of a bargain. The guy that used to buy a car in the '50's or 60's and tinker around with it, now buys a gun and tinkers around with it simply because guns are affordable and cars aren't anymore.

Really? How many people owned cars in the fifties and how many own them now and an average white male with a job, in 1950, made a median inflation adjusted wage of $18,001. Today, that number is $31,335

 

[MedWheeler]

Okay, this is now a "guns-compared-to-cars" thread?

 

[TennJed]

Kokapelli, you are forgetting one very important thing which I believe really ups the bargain aspect of guns. Customer service and lifetime warranties. It is really amazing how well the firearm industry treats its customers. I think it is safe to assume Dodge doesn't give a crap if my 14 year old truck breaks down. I got Rugers twice that age and know they will take care of them if something goes wrong

 

[kokapelli]

Yes I will give that.

 

[bikerdoc]

Holy thread drift batman!!!

Please bring it back to OP please.

 

[capttom]

I don't have any personal interest in the P95 (or indeed, any of the centerfire Ruger semi's), but I mourn their passing. It's another indication that we're losing an entire class of weapons. Metal hammer guns seem to be going the way of the dinosaur. I've tried the plastic striker-fired pistols with dingus triggers and simply don't like them. CZ, Beretta and SIG continue metal production and there are a host of smaller European offerings, but I wonder about their long term production. I'm glad I have my Colt .45 Combat Commander and my 9mm. third generation Smith & Wessons.

 

[kokapelli]

The fact that polymer based guns are selling so well must mean a lot of people must like them.

I have a couple of CZ pistols and they are fine guns, but my Ruger SR9 with it's striker and polymer base has become my favorite 9mm.

it all depends on what you like and as you mentioned there are still all kinds of all metal guns available.

 

[Biohazard1993]

I too will miss the p series... RIP. On the other hand expounding on making 9mm and 40 cal versions of the sr22p (full size and compact) would be nice, more of a walther type firearm. Still has a hammer, lite-weight polymer frame, decent capacity, reliable, and looks sweet as candy. I prefer the walther mag release on the trigger guard as apposed to ruger's on the grip, but i can live with the ruger mag release.

 

[ritepath]

We still have Sig and CZ and that ain't bad.

We just lost a budget but reliable option.

 

[Biohazard1993]

I agree, I feel we are losing a whole class of pistols; likes and dislikes aside, it is the truth. I feel sad when i see pistols with hammers being discontinued. I like my weapons to have hammers, I just can't get past the fugliness of most striker pistols. Pluss something about having a hammer on a pistol is just well...bad@$$. I owned a S&W M&P9 (had a few problems i worked out), traded it for a tanfoglio witness 9mm combat and never looked back. I understand that polymer striker pistols are lite-weight and easy to carry, but when it comes down to what makes me personally think "Oh yeah I want one" or "oh yeah I own one" is a heavy full metal hammerd pistol. The p95 had polymer (great for carry) but it still had the hammerand it has a place in my heart and I am sad to see what is going to be the waning of hammer driven pistols.

 

[hemiram]

While the Rugers never appealed all that much to me, I'm sad to see another metal pistol line bite the dust. I don't really like plastic guns much at all, give me steel. Solid steel, and I'm happy. It's hard for me to think of a better gun than an all steel CZ or a clone, or a 3rd generation S&W, like a 5906 or 4506. I have a bunch of these guns and love them all.

 

[Kiln]

While the Rugers never appealed all that much to me, I'm sad to see another metal pistol line bite the dust. I don't really like plastic guns much at all, give me steel. Solid steel, and I'm happy. It's hard for me to think of a better gun than an all steel CZ or a clone, or a 3rd generation S&W, like a 5906 or 4506. I have a bunch of these guns and love them all.

Well the frame was polymer on the P95 but it does represent another hammer fired design biting the dust. Pretty sure in 20 years nearly everything will be striker fired.

 

[DC3-CVN-72]

Ruger made ALOT of the P Series guns. They will be sitting next to the 3rd. gen S&W guns in the used gun case @ my LGS. forever. I think they will continue to be a best buy 4 the $$$. I would realy like a LNIB P-90 under $400.00 !!

 

[TennJed]

Well the frame was polymer on the P95 but it does represent another hammer fired design biting the dust. Pretty sure in 20 years nearly everything will be striker fired.

I can't wait to see what the purist say when the first striker fire "1911" hits the market

 

[Kahr33556]

Ya I don't care for mine to much.it was cheaper than others and is reliable.
just keep it loaded as a home defense gun.