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The Super Blackhawk has a slightly larger frame than the Blackhawk. Also the trigger guard is Squared off in the back on the Super Blackhawk. The Super Blackhawk is chambered in 44 mag where the Blackhawk is chambered in other calibers.
Hope this helps... someone else may be able to give more info.
Hope this helps... someone else may be able to give more info.
Actually the newer Super Blackhawks with the rounded trigger guard have the same size frame as the Blackhawks but with steel in stead of aluminum alloy frame. The exception is the stainless Blackhawks which have steel frames too. As noted the Supers are .44 Mag and the Blackhawks in .357, .41 mag and .45 Colt.
Mine is one of the older Supers with square back trigger guard, shown with a Blackhawk in .45 Colt
Mine is one of the older Supers with square back trigger guard, shown with a Blackhawk in .45 Colt
The differences between the BH and SBH is basically the caliber in most cases. There's been runs of the SBH HUnter in both stad and Bisley variaton made in .45 Long Colt (Lipsey's) and .41 magnum (Davidson's) Other than thsoe all SBH's have been chambering in.44 magnum.
The cylinder frames are the same between the two revolvers. Cylinders differ only on in that some SBH models are unfluted. Grip frames on SBH's are either steel or stainless steel . Those with the squared back trigger gaurd are also longer while some models do share the same design as the BH.
The cylinder frames are the same between the two revolvers. Cylinders differ only on in that some SBH models are unfluted. Grip frames on SBH's are either steel or stainless steel . Those with the squared back trigger gaurd are also longer while some models do share the same design as the BH.
madcratebuilder
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I assume you mean "grip frame" and not "frame"
The Super Blackhawk (SBH) has a larger frame than the NMBH, can have dragoon or round trigger guard and is 44mag only. Comes in several barrel lengths. Many have been modified so you can just about any combination of parts.
The New Model Blackhawk (NMBH) comes in several calibers including 44 mag. I would not call it a small frame but it is smaller the the SBH
47 years is not recently
What is a standard BH?
Are you refering to the old models? The NMBH is a different frame than the original BH, but you don't see many around. They have become too collectible.
Beagle-zebub
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When you say there is a difference in frame size between the SBH and the NMBH, do you mean the grip-frame, or the actual frame? (The thing enclosing the cylinder, legally regulated by the ATF.) I had been under the impression that the grip-frame is a different size, but that the body frame is the same.
Try to follow along. "Until recently" was referring to the ones started being made the past couple of years as BH73 mentioned. Prior to that was the SBH. Then prior to the SBH were the BHs which could be had in .44 mag.
So follow along - Until the recently made BHs in .44 mag (past couple of years) and prior to the SBH the .44 mag was made in BH. Follow now?
The frame, the actual frame (ie cylinder frame), of the revovler is the same on both the NMBH and the NMSBH. The lone exceptions are the two 50th ann models that were built on a medium sized flattop frame.
standard: -noun: an object that is regarded as the usual or most common size or form of its kind
The standard NMBHs would be those that were NOT the 50th Ann models as I was referring to immedately before the other models being referred to as "standard".
Since this seems to be getting confusing for the OPer, let me try and consolodate it all.
ALL New Model Blackhawks and New Model Super Blackhawks are built using the same cylinder frame. There are two exceptions however. They are the New Model Blackhawks built on the medium sized flattop frame (50th Anniverasy Blackhawk & 50th Ann of the .44 magnum).
The cylinders for the BH and the 5 1/2" barrled SBH are the same. The other SBH models simply don't have fluted cylinders. This of course doesn't hold true for the 50th Ann flattop models which becasue of the slightly smaller cylinder frame, use a slightly smaller cylinder.
Gripframes are the most complex variation part.
Best bet for that is to read, once the server fix is done, the complete article on GunBlast. Here's the link: http://www.gunblast.com/Hamm_Ruger-SA-GripFrames.htm
ALL New Model Blackhawks and New Model Super Blackhawks are built using the same cylinder frame. There are two exceptions however. They are the New Model Blackhawks built on the medium sized flattop frame (50th Anniverasy Blackhawk & 50th Ann of the .44 magnum).
The cylinders for the BH and the 5 1/2" barrled SBH are the same. The other SBH models simply don't have fluted cylinders. This of course doesn't hold true for the 50th Ann flattop models which becasue of the slightly smaller cylinder frame, use a slightly smaller cylinder.
Gripframes are the most complex variation part.
Best bet for that is to read, once the server fix is done, the complete article on GunBlast. Here's the link: http://www.gunblast.com/Hamm_Ruger-SA-GripFrames.htm
sometimes it easiest if you start from the beginning.
originally there was the BH which was a medium frame...often refered to as the "flat top"
when they first introduced the .44 mag they used the BH frame
they later introduced the SBH with a larger frame and the "dragoon" grip frame
to simplify production they standardized the BH on the SBH frame, but the SBH was the only model to used the steel dragoon grip frame
originally there was the BH which was a medium frame...often refered to as the "flat top"
when they first introduced the .44 mag they used the BH frame
they later introduced the SBH with a larger frame and the "dragoon" grip frame
to simplify production they standardized the BH on the SBH frame, but the SBH was the only model to used the steel dragoon grip frame
22-rimfire
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This is one of those things I don't know about Rugers. Are the frames of both the current Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk made of steel? One stated that the frame of the BH is aluminum and SBH is steel. Please give me one answer on frames.... the metal thing under the grips.
machinisttx
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The grip frame on the blackhawk is aluminum, EXCEPT on stainless steel guns.
I have no idea on the SBH because I don't own one.
I have no idea on the SBH because I don't own one.
all Super Blackhawks have "gripframes" made of steel...be they stainless or blued.
the "frame" of a SAA type pistol (cowboy gun) is the part containing the hammer, trigger and cylinder and has the barrel attached to it
the "frame" of a SAA type pistol (cowboy gun) is the part containing the hammer, trigger and cylinder and has the barrel attached to it
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