Ruger refuses to sell 20 round mags for the Mini now, to anyone but cops

[Mannlicher]

I got an email from Mark at FourFourMags today. He told me that the Ruger 20 round mags I ordered from them for my Mini-14 right after the AWB sunsetted, would not be shipped. Ruger has decided not to sell any mags to wholesalers, but only direct to Law Enforcement agencies. Ruger is determined to keep high cap mags out of the hands of the comman man.

I will not buy any more Ruger firearms. I have, lets see, 8 now. They are all on the block, and I will sell everyone of them.

Ruger does not deserve business from gun owners. Bet those buttheads voted for Kerry.

 

[Trebor]

What Ruger's are you selling? I may be interested.

Btw, I agree that their policy is BS. We'll see if they hold to it after people start to complain and if sales drop any.

 

[No4Mk1]

If this can be confirmed I would fully support a boycott and letter-writing campaign.

 

[JohnMc]

I like my Rugers. I'd probably buy more, but...

Who do they think they're foolin'? Aftermarket mags will be made.

This policy is anti gun owner.

I figure my boycott has already started, but a real one, with letters will let 'em know why their sales drop.

 

[JohnKSa]

No surprise there...

They wouldn't sell them before the ban either.

 

[albanian]

This is serious. If this is true, we need to show them that this policy will not pay. They have to decide if they are pro-gun or anti-gun right now! Are they selling hi-cap pistol mags to the public? I think I saw some for the P-89 at the last gunshow but I didn't look because I don't have any Ruger centerfire autos.

I can understand them not selling hi-cap 10/22 mags because the gun was never intended to be a hi-cap gun but I think they are missing the boat on a lot of 25 and 30rd sales. The Mini-14 and Mini-30 are SUPPOSED to be hi-cap guns! Why would anyone want a 5rd Mini-14?

 

[MeekandMild]

Back when I had a Mini 14 (a long time ago) I found it wasa gun which had no problems with USA mags. There was a problem getting factory mags 'way back then as well.

 

[bad_dad_brad]

You all have to understand the Ruger is one of the most savvy of U.S. gun manufacturers. They cater to the main stream and a few niches that other manufacturers have ignored. That is why they are so successful, and profitable, where other's like Colt and S&W have had such financial problems.

You may not like it but they know good business, and any kind of controversy for Ruger is something they avoid. Besides, who the heck wants a 20 round mag for the Mini-14 anyway? After a couple of shots the barrel heats up and accuracy goes to heck.

Personally, and I have a Mini-14, all I desire is a good 10 round clip, and I have several.

 

[TheOtherOne]

If it's true, I'll be scratching the Mini-14 and 10/22 off my "To Buy" list.

 

[wasrjoe]

You may not like it but they know good business, and any kind of controversy for Ruger is something they avoid.

Sounds like they want to do without my business then. I'll gladly oblidge them.

 

[joab]

who the heck wants a 20 round mag for the Mini-14 anyway

That's not the point, or shouldn't be.
If this is true Ruger has decided to stand with the Brady's, again. This is as much or more of a slap in the face as what S&W did.

You may not like it but they know good business,

How is it good business to tell your customers that you do not respect their right to own your product.

 

[psyopspec]

Is this confirmed by more than one source? Where do I send my letter to (electronic or snail)?

 

[Chuck Jennings]

You may not like it but they know good business

It is not good business to ignore your customer's desires. The demand will simply be met elsewhere in the marketplace. They could make a lot of money selling 20 rnd mags for one of the most popular gun models in the country. Instead, they bow to the pressure of interest groups that are working to put them out of business.

 

[Pinned&Recessed]

The local Cheaper Than Dirt had brand-new in box, oil-coated 20-round LEO-marked Ruger Mini-14 mags for sale. $28.00 each if I recall.

 

[Ivy Mike]

If it's true, I'll be scratching the Mini-14 and 10/22 off my "To Buy" list.

No reason to avoid such a great arm as the 10/22.
Just don't buy it new. Get one that is a few years old that Ruger doesn't make money on anymore. Then pick up some 25 round magazines for it and enjoy your assault weapon

 

[JohnKSa]

I love the way...

that people can find the time to post but not to read...

As I said earlier--this has been Ruger's policy from the BEGINNING.

This has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BAN EXPIRING.

This is NOT A POLICY CHANGE.

Ruger has ALWAYS limited the sale of mini-14/30 magazines holding more than 5 rounds to LE only.

If you want to boycott, go ahead--frankly I hate the policy and it's one of the reasons I no longer own a mini. BUT let's not pretend that this is something new that's popped up since the expiration of the AWB.

 

[psyopspec]

Thought it might be new given the fact that they couldn't market to non-LEO's during the AWB. It's not really the policy to boycott, but rather the continuation of a policy...

 

[wasrjoe]

John, I think it also has to do with the fact that some people thought this policy would change with Bill Ruger no longer being in power and the AWB dying.

 

[Ghost_Point]

Don't buy weapons from the USA and they'll be selling everything again as fast as they can. Screw Ruger and Screw Smith & Wesson

sell your ruger and get an AK variant. There is a reason why Marines grab up AKs in the feild.

 

[joab]

As I said earlier--this has been Ruger's policy from the BEGINNING.

OK fine make the boycott retroactive.

It does not matter that the policy is not new. For the past ten years it's been a non issue so not many people have been aware of it. Now that it's being brought to light and more people are aware of it, more people should express their opinion about it to to Ruger.

 

[Derek Garland]

10 round Ruger is a name well earned John Norrell recieved a letter once from Rugers leagal dept. that he must stop the conversion of 10/22 to select fire that it was illegal to do so(this was pre '86) and it has been said that Ruger has braged that the 10/22 cannot be converted to full auto agian this is pre '86.
A good friend who was a USMC gunsmith had a Ruger a556 to repair for the end user in effort to locate parts for this thing called Ruger and was told they never manufactured such a thing...Why the hell anyone would want such a thing as a full auto mini 14 I will never know 2 mags and you cant hold it with any m16 you can dump a Beta mag and still hold the gun.Rugar has long held the policy of no badge no need so I will let them beat down there own cotten row and take my money elsewhere.and then ther huge investment cast pistols Wow....w/10RDS who decied that rd 11,12,13...Did all the damage anyway what are the first 10 spoters?

Just the ramblings of an idiot.....

 

[buzz_knox]

"No badge, no need." I like that. And it describes Ruger accurately. The spirt of William Ruger lives on. Folks, there is a reason that the Mini-14 was specifically excluded from the AWB. Ruger sold out long ago. This is a great opportunity to remind the world of that fact.

 

[JohnMc]

No reason to avoid such a great arm as the 10/22.

Agreed, buy a receiver from one of the companies that make steel ones, buy the rest of the parts from Volquartsen or some such.
Result: 10/22, no parts from an anti-gun owner company.

 

[Heavy Barrel]

Ruger Mag

Hey guys,I have a near new original Ruger 10rd Mini 14 mag if any one wants it.

 

[Sulaco]

Originally Posted By: bad_dad_brad

...10 round clip...

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. If anyone was going to take you seriously, you lost them with that sophmoric screw-up. The point isn't that you sir prefer ten round MAGAZINES. It is that Bill Ruger is a sellout and only interested in money (which I think you hit on quite well).

This issue is the reason I do not buy Ruger (new) firearms. I will not support a company who feels the need to legislate sales. I told all of my friends (and posted it hear and at Glocktalk) that Ruger had no plans to change their policy to reflect the new sunsetted law. Bill Ruger is the reason the law included magazine capacity limits in the first place.

Screwem.