Why can't a gun dealer sell Ruger factory Mini-14 mags to us?

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Yep. Something like that.

Ruger = evil.

Jihad on Ruger. Death, destruction, etc.

I can't stand them. They make some nice guns, but their politics prevent me from purchasing any of them.
 
Ruger has been doing this for years. But some dealers haved/will sell hi cap mags to anyone.

-Bill
 
A few dealers recently sold Ruger "LEO" mags to anyone who walked in, but whenRuger found out, they asked them to stop and no longer sent supplies of the hi-caps out to them.

I still have no problems with Ruger not selling hi-cap mags to the public. There are a number of aftermarket manufacturers who have quality mags at lower prices and in most cases, mags of higher capacity that what Ruger ever offered.

Bill Ruger's politics were his business. I don't have to like them, but the product is still good quality and all of them are well built (like the proverbial brick outhouse) and dependable. Mabey not pretty to some, but the BG at the other end is not looking at "prett-ayh"! All of my Rugers are dependable and I would not hesitate carrying any one of them (and I do) or grab one when teh SHTF.
 
What sucks about Ruger is their hypocracy. They refuse to sell >10 round magazines for the Mini-14 to the public to protect their rifle from being called an "assault weapon." In fact, Bill Ruger is the one that created this magazine capacity issue soley to prevent the Mini-14 from being banned in the '94 AW ban while his chief competition, the AR-15, was banned by name.

But now that the ban is over, Ruger Inc. decided they would sell >10 round magazines for their pistol line or they would lose sales as people purchased other similar sized handguns from other manufacturers. The consumer isn't going to by a full-sized Ruger 9mm that holds 10 rounds when they can buy a Beretta or S&W 9mm of equal size that holds 15.
 
Bill Ruger's politics were his own business-until he put his business behind his politics, and it became a concern to those who wanted to purchase Ruger products.

I for one won't purchase guns from a company that supported the AWB, and that STILL won't trust me with an 11 round mag for a 10-22. There are plenty of companies that want my (limited) fun money that aren't anti-gun, and I support them.

Larry
 
"I never meant for simple civilians to have my 20 or 30 round magazines or my folding stock."__William Ruger
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So he is thinking us as "SIMPLE" civilians, while himself as a " complex" what?

Anyone could have their opinions about buying a Ruger product, for me I just cannot imagine to give one's hard-earned money to such a person who might make some good product, but treat us civilian shooting community as potential criminal gang! He should have no any damn right to share the profit provided by our buying. It is really absurd that such kind of guys in American firearm industry could run his business successfully.

He could tout his product. For me, No Ruger doesn't means the end of the world, but if we all won't give our money to such a guy, then for him, it is the end of his Ruger world, a world where he could insult us and suck our blood at the same time.
 
I for one won't purchase guns from a company that supported the AWB, and that STILL won't trust me with an 11 round mag for a 10-22
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Simple solution. Buy them used. I have a beautiful 10/22 made in '66. Much nicer stock than what they come with now, anyways.
 
Bill Ruger was never a friend of gun owners. He was a two-faced liar who said 'civilians' should not have access to high capacity magazines, then he would turn around and donate $1,000,000,000 to the NRA so the gullible would think he was pro-gun. To this day I refuse to buy Ruger. :cuss:
 
A few dealers recently sold Ruger "LEO" mags to anyone who walked in, but whenRuger found out, they asked them to stop and no longer sent supplies of the hi-caps out to them.
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I've heard this story too, and tend to believe it. (Same with Colt and their "regular" AR15 clones.)

I always thought there was some sort of law (Restraint of trade? Illegal monopoly? Price fixing?) that said a manufacturer had no say in how his products were ultimately sold to the legal end user, once he gave up ownership to a middleman . . . and that it was illegal to cut off supplies if the middleman sold to the wrong people, or for too low a price.

Is this the case, or am I all wet here?

Any legal eagles willing to weigh in and enlighten me?
 
What a bunch of cry babies. Ramline and Butler Creek might not even be in business, and would definitely not have the R&D capital that they have were it not for their niche as high-cap Ruger mag producers. I guess ya'll don't like 'Commie' rifles either? :rolleyes:
 
Bill Ruger was never a friend of gun owners. He was a two-faced liar who said 'civilians' should not have access to high capacity magazines, then he would turn around and donate $1,000,000,000 to the NRA so the gullible would think he was pro-gun. To this day I refuse to buy Ruger.
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I never understood why someone will support something that will hurt his busines in the future. The antis who pushed the AWB even stated that they wanted to ban all guns not just So called AW.

-Bill
 
I like buying Commie rifles. They're my proof that the commies lost. :cool:

When Ruger changes their policies, I'll buy a Redhawk to celebrate that, too.

Larry
 
I always thought there was some sort of law (Restraint of trade? Illegal monopoly? Price fixing?) that said a manufacturer had no say in how his products were ultimately sold to the legal end user, once he gave up ownership to a middleman .
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That only applies if your name is Bill Gates. Gun manufacturers do it all of the time.
 
No, we just really ????ing hate ruger.

Please, do everything you can to drive Ruger's prices down, I still have several I'd like to get my hands on. Ruger doesn't seem to have noticed a bump in the road from all your hate though. They still do things the way they do things, even if its wrong. When G.W. Bush does this, you guys seem to love it. What gives with the double standard?

You-> :banghead: <-Ruger
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Ruger doesn't seem to have noticed a bump in the road from all your hate though. They still do things the way they do things, even if its wrong.
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I have the right to not purchase things from a company owned by a man who thinks I'm a second class citizen. Nothing I've done has hindered Sarah Brady or the MMM, either. By your logic, I guess I should give up and join them?

When G.W. Bush does this, you guys seem to love it. What gives with the double standard?
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No idea. I didn't vote for him.

You->:banghead:<-Ruger
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Bill Ruger can :fire: in hell.

See, I can use smileys too.
 
Bill Ruger does/(did) not respect me.

So I do not (now ) respect him or his company.

Ruger used to be a good company.

Spreading their butt cheeks to satan was their choice.

Next question?
 
now, i do not agree with what bill said, but the way things were heading, if he hadn't called for a mag ban, then we could have simply lost the rifles themselves. and besides, we have all said things that wernt interpreted the way we meant them. i think this is a case of misunderstanding. and besides, the AWB is over, so instead of getting angry about the past, lets stick it to the anti gunners by going to the range with 90 round drums! Ruger makes great products, so lets put this behind us and celibate our sacred right to bare arms!:)
 
I like my Mini-14, and I like my 10/22. Bill Ruger is dead, and let him pass on. I wish his heirs would change policies, but that did not work out.
As for Mini-14 mags, well, I called Ruger directly. They referred me to LE sales, who referred me to an outfit in California, who I was told is now the only source of fatcory 20 round mags. Forgive me, I don't remember the name. When I asked for LE pricing for individual officer sales, I was told 20 round mags are $40 each. The high price we see is direct from the factory, not the middle man. It is the only sore point for me for a rifle I happen to quite like. I will be reduced to looking for deals on factory mags, but in the meantime, I do have to say the John Masen 20 rounders I have do funtion, for a fraction of the price.
What really got me was discovering my LT had 15, 20 round factory Mini-14 mags left over from when my Dept used them...and she threw them AWAY right before I got my rifle, just junk in her garage...GAH!
 
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