Ruin a hunt on purpose???

[ATAShooter]

Cob, No, it IS understood he is within his legal right to hunt His property. And that is cool by us in every way possible. He is breaking the property line with the bullet that is getting us. His kills are on us. if it was on his, GREAT!!! What he does on his land is his business, whether its build, party, or run around naked, I don't care. Him shooting game on us, thats the problem.

 

[NOLAEMT]

Could you and your neighbors pitch in and buy his one acre? Go to the father cash in hand, so to speak, and offer to buy him out. then all of you could split it up evenly and anex it toward your own property?

 

[kyle1974]

how can someone even guarantee safety hunting on 1 acre? Are there any laws about insuring your bullet doesn't cross another property boundary?

I can't get past that one detail.... hunting on 1 acre...

 

[ATAShooter]

Kyle, I will say this, he built the Taj Mahal of blinds,...it is about 15 ft up, about 10X15 with a gas furnace, double pane vinyl windows (that faces everybodys land but his), insulated and vinyl sided.... pretty darn impressive. Alot of $$$ invested.

 

[kyle1974]

I know what I'd do.... buy enough high fence to enclose 1 acre...

 

[Cob]

One could argue that hunting on 8.5 acres, with 1 acre parcels, homes, and adjacent neighbors surrounding it does not seem safe either, if using high power rifles. I would be scared too if i lived in that neighborhood.

Even if you bought his 1 acre out, and increased landholding to 9.5 acres; you mentioned you had a dog, homesite,and other neighbors their dogs too???- huntable land just decreased from that description. I'm sure there have to be access roads in this mix somewhere as well? I don't think i'd invite the neighbors over for sub machine gun party in this situation

 

[ATAShooter]

Our county is Shotgun only, no rifles for deer.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Get a OLD video camera, every time he's out there, go and set it up (covered by the LIVE feed)

come by and switch tapes every 90 minutes
thing he will get the hint, best it either him stealing it or shooting it.

Cheaper than a fence is a thorny hedge, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maclura_pomifera
It grows very quickly has thorns and is really cheap, it was used to 'fence' in cattle
basically anything that you could plant in the spring that would get tall enough to form a screen to keep the guy from seeing into your property.

 

[bad_aim_billy]

I know what I'd do.... buy enough high fence to enclose 1 acre...

And we have a winner

 

[Bobson]

Build a moat around your land.

 

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

Well since the cameras are on your property and they're coming up missing, if caught he's facing theft.

 

[Sav .250]

If your property line is NOT posted ...........do so. This guy sounds like a jerk
so do what you have to do. Good luck.

 

[AR-yoter]

all ya gotta do is catch him poaching one time ... over here in WA i believe you even get a reward... it sucks cause you prob dont want to be "that guy" but someone who cant respect others propert and hunting ethics should have the ability to use them ..

 

[MtnCreek]

I would make him my special project and ‘hunt’ him. I would legally ‘post’ my land with my County Court House. Place posted signs with the required information on them and at the required spacing. I would contact my Sherriff’s office and file a complaint. Then I would send a letter describing the problem and instructing him that any more trespasses will result in legal action; you may want to include a copy of your plat with the letter. Just like hunting anything else, I would try to pattern his actions: when is he more likely to hunt, where is he likely to hunt, … then I would set out to catch him in the act with photo evidence. Keep a written log in chronological order. After you can show you sheriff that you have demanded he no longer trespass and you can show that he continues to do so, you can force the Sheriff to take action.

Make sure you’re willing to deal with the consequences; this kid is probably going to be even more trouble after you bust him.

 

[inclinebench]

If he has just one acre, then getting together with your neighbors, and having everyone build a fence along the line they share with his one acre should be pretty easy, and not too expensive. Locust posts ans good square hole topped with a line or barbed should keep him out, and certainly make it hell to get a deer over. If the fence is cut at any point, in the Commonwealth, that is very illegal, and he would be nailed for it.

I am considering putting up a fence like this, but it is on steep terrain, heavily wooded, and rocky soil and would have to run for about half a mile, but we have a pretty consistant tresspasser coming in every season, and it is not easy to catch him, so making it harder for him is my only option now.

 

[wombat13]

I know what I'd do.... buy enough high fence to enclose 1 acre...

That's the way! Enclose him with high-fence or thorny brush like another poster suggested.

 

[ATAShooter]

The fence is what we decided on. It seems to be the least amount of trouble and easiest to do. We was going to do video, but all of us work and don't have time to babysit this dude.

 

[788Ham]

From the sounds of the "hide" this jerk has built, his ol' man is as much to blame as the kid, going to that kind of expense and all. Hazing, or harassing hunters in our state will land you in jail with a hefty fine, might want to rethink that strategy. Fencing seems to be your only alternative, plus adding signs for no trespassing, or whatever you decide. The razor wire would be the best bet, every other strand, with barbed wire being the other. Also, a thought just hit me, the signs! Might check them every other day taking a camera with you, any bullet holes in them will be noted on the pics taken, you'll then have proof he's shot past your property lines. If the law in your state is worded that no one can go onto your property and retrieve game without permission, fence is cut, pretty hard to repair razor taped wire without it showing, looks to me as if you've got a good start in squelching this rummy! The skunk stench spread around his hide, driving around your place checking things at odd, different hours, photos taken should give you plenty of ammo if GW's, sheriff is contacted. its just too bad there are still people like this in the world, bad seed propagates bad seed!

 

[Flintknapper]

Excellent choice ATA!

Fence makes the most sense and does the most to de-escalate what is sure to become a conflict soon.

My hat is off to you for your integrity.

Flint.

 

[ATAShooter]

We have contacted a fence contractor and have decided on chain link 15ft tall with razor wire at top, that extends 24" below ground. We figure that'll do it. Contractor says it will look like Alcatraz, but she'll do the job.

 

[HarcyPervin]

wow, thats extreme, effective nonetheless though. Keep us updated on your penned in moron, it'll be interesting to see how he reacts to this situation. FWIW, moth balls work pretty well, and can be scattered around without being too obvious

 

[788Ham]

"A man's gotta know his limitations!"

Hope things work out for you, keep us posted.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

The fence is what we decided on.

Well lets hope he doesn't go out at night, and simply cut it up. It's not illegal for him to be on the property at night, just to hunt at night (depending on the critter). It is illegal for him to cut your fence, but he has to get caught, and he thinks he can't be caught.

I would venture to guess he will damage the fence. IF he has the slightest amount of brains, he will modify the fence so he can get under it..., then he will shoot onto your property, kill deer, tresspass, drag the deer back to his fence modification, and slip the animal under it.

It also doesn't prevent him from merely slaughtering deer on your property to mess with your hunting, as he is in an elevated stand/blind, he can shoot over your fence without problems, just for spite.

I wish you luck, but having dealt with this sort of situation in the past, I predict he will continue to be a problem until he is actually caught and charged with something.

Since "Dad" won't deal with it, he must be a juvenile, so one way to get Dad's attention is to file suite to recover the cost of the fence necessitated by his son's actions and his failure to deal with the problem. Then get a "restraining order" while the suit is progressing, that requires the son to stay away from all property (including land) belonging to you, for a distance of 100 yards. This should prohibit the kid from even setting foot on the acre in question.

Now the kid won't obey, and when spotted in violation of the order, get a photo, call the cops, have him arrested for violation of the order. Keep putting off judgement of the suit, and keep renewing the restraining order. You might be able to string this out for a couple of years or more. If dad has to come-out-of-pocket for a lawyer, has to appear in court, give a deposition, etc, he may just tie a knot in junior's arse about the situation.

This isn't a cheap solution..., when you use the legal system it's never cheap, but if you can't find a LEO who wants to help in return for hunting some on your property, you probably will end up spending some money in the long run.

LD

 

[armoredman]

Sounds like the fencing at work, nifty. See if you can add a roll of razor wire to the bottom facing his land, hedgehog style, "to keep the animals from digging under it"...
Also, if he is fenced in from all sides save the access road, then if the fence is cut I would say even an old county sheriff could figure out "whodunnit".

 

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

Once he gets the fence up he can put the trail cam's up in the area of the punk's blind and the kid can't get it, but it will capture him if hetries to damage the fence.... if he doesn't shoot it, but then that's proof he's shooting over the property line.