Rumor mongering -- new Ruger auto?
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Anna's Dad
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This certainly doesn't apply to Ruger since mine has been 100%, but I think those manufacturers with a poor reliablity reputation should advertise this as a new safety feature.
If the gun only fires half the time its supposed to that would certainly reduce the changes of someone being hurt accidentally!
Wonder why ppl don't whine and complain if a vehicle has front & rear airbags, side curtain airbags seatbelts, integrated crumple zones, etc. That's certainly a lot of safety features too.
Sooner or latr all handguns and possibly long guns are going to have locks, etc so I guess there's gonna be a LOT of folks not buying anything current pretty soon.
tinygnat219
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Well, Ruger has been undergoing a Lean Initiative. Looks like they are finally going to do something that responds to their customers. They really have marched to their own drum, and that's ok. They are a successful company. I just wish they'd have some other products.
P97
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Yep, that's why I'm stocking up good now. I have bought several new guns in the last few years and none has a lock. Got some Decockers without safeties before they are all gone also. My new gun buying is probably coming to a close shortly.
boomstik45
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Glock clone? Yeesshhh. Why does everything have to be a Glock clone? Besides, I though "clone" meant "look alike". With the exception of the Sigma, damn near everything that's come out after a glock has both looked and felt better. Many function just as well.
Glock clone....
Glock clone....
BlkHawk73 said:
Cars? Those safety improvements are to keep me and my family from the pinheads on the road.
Ruger been trying to keep me safe from me. I can do just fine on my own. Also, they wan't to stay on the good side of the gun grabbers.
Yes, I do own Rugers.
Excellent post. The only Ruger I own right now is a MKIII Hunter in which I have removed the loaded chamber indicator and am debating finding a way to remove the magazine disconnect safety. Most likely, it is the only Ruger I will ever own.
Anna's Dad
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It seems that if anyone makes a striker fired polymer gun its immediately labeled a Glock clone no matter how different in form or function.
boomstik45
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Ridiculous, ain't it? And I LIKE glocks...
So there's no way on God's little green Earth that YOU could have an accident so that the safety devices in your vehicle would be needed?
Anyways...Locks are going be be inevitable like I said. I'm waiting for the first case to hit the court system where a lockable firearm was accidently discharged. The manufacturer provided the design and insturctions on it's use so it'll all come down on the owner then. As it should. Abbout time ppl take responsibility for their own actions. It's business sence to integrate them now and be in the markets that require them ahead of other manufacturers. Had I the time, I'd love to see how many that say "no lockable guns for me" have gone against that in a few years.
denfoote
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Flashback to 1997. Ruger comes out with a "new" "whizzbang" "compact" pistol, P95.
Of course, I thought it was a little big for a compact pistol, but my cash went "plop" anyway.
Upon returning home, I compared it with my roommate's P89 amd discovered that it was compact when compared to the full size gun. It was 1/2" shorter!!
I hope Ruger does better this time!!
Of course, I thought it was a little big for a compact pistol, but my cash went "plop" anyway.
Upon returning home, I compared it with my roommate's P89 amd discovered that it was compact when compared to the full size gun. It was 1/2" shorter!!
I hope Ruger does better this time!!
gbran
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Para has a new "smallest" ccw gun coming out soon. I suspect it's a non-1911 polymer gun. They've put forth the hype, but no images or details yet.
Comments like that don't make any sense. Just because they all use a firing pin doesn't make them all clones of a Glock. They are all completely different in the layout and function of their "similar" parts and materials. It's like saying every sports car being produced today is just a clone of sports car X...it's just not true. The fact is, at the end of the day they are ALL just sports cars. Each one is different and offers something the other might or might not have. Your preference determines which one you like or buy.
Why is it that everytime a new firearm comes out, it is bashed to hell for everything, including a lack of originality? Are those bashers just scared that one day they might, perhaps, like a new gun more than the one they previously called "the best" in their own minds and have to pay for it? Are their egos too big to allow room for another onliner to post about how nice or cool their new gun is? I just don't get it. Variety is the spice of life
If I could send all the gun manufacturers a message it would be to give us more variety and make more guns, "clones" and all! So long as they are all reliable...my 2 cents on the matter.I hope Ruger gives us something good here..I'm not a fan of their current centerfire line-up.
MPanova
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atblis
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IF they make a single stack super compact 9mm, they've got my attention.
Otherwise, *yawn*, I think I'll go back to bed this morning.
Otherwise, *yawn*, I think I'll go back to bed this morning.
boomer1911a1
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Since the comment was mine, allow me to retort:
I'm using the term "clone" here not to denote identical dimensional parity, like the way, say, the slide from a Colt 1911 can be put on a Kimber or Springfield or Rock Island Armory or Rock River Arms receiver and still (probably) function. I'm using it to denote a similar route of construction. You say:
but I say look at the similarities:
Polymer frame
double-column magazine for class-leading capacity
Steel slide (carbon or stainless)
trigger-mounted safety (at least on the Glock, Sigma, Steyr, and the stillborn Kimber)
no external safety (exc. the XD's grip safety, bless Springfield, and the new M&P .45's manual safety, thank you S&W.)
all-black original color scheme (with some earth tones available as the model matured)
1913 P. rail on all current offerings
no provisions for dressing up the gun with fancy grips
Of course they aren't identical. And of course the later ones feel better. But since H&K's early plastic models from the 70s were practically ignored, I'm going to call Gaston the father of this entire line.
And just to set the record straight, I'm such a Ruger fan, that when they do put one out in .45 ACP, I'll almost certainly buy it. I just don't know how much I'll love it.
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I hope they dont discontinue the p95 after this comes out like they did with the p97.
And what would really be nice is if they would do away with the old rock forward magazine release and put a conventional push butten like everybody else does. I cant remember how many times I've inadvertenly dumped a magazine on the ground with my p95.
And what would really be nice is if they would do away with the old rock forward magazine release and put a conventional push butten like everybody else does. I cant remember how many times I've inadvertenly dumped a magazine on the ground with my p95.
gudel
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Whatever it is, it's going to look ugly, and feels cheap but at higher cost. Nah, not interested.
lee n. field
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They just updated the design of the P95, a couple years ago. Added a rail and changed the trigger guard -- nothing as radical as the P97 to P345 jump.
Opposite to that, has there ever been an instance where a gun locked itself? I just don't sweat the lock and throw the key in a drawer. The magazine safety I can't stand. Fortunately most of my Rugers are older from before the nonsense.
As to the Ruger, I'm just hoping that it isn't yet another 1911.
boomer1911a1
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Cane:
I know! (see post #4) Except that the VP had about twenty times the cool factor of the Glock. I know, I know, there are Glock 18s out there with selective fire and shoulder stocks (same as the VP-70) but they don't look like they were designed in a wind tunnel.
I know! (see post #4) Except that the VP had about twenty times the cool factor of the Glock. I know, I know, there are Glock 18s out there with selective fire and shoulder stocks (same as the VP-70) but they don't look like they were designed in a wind tunnel.
MPanova
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OK Its the 11th so where are the pictures of this new Ruger
Whirlwind06
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This somebodies photo shop joke pic!!
NOT the real thing!!
NOT the real thing!!
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