Rumors of new AR-180B variants?

[355sigfan]

I do understand that some people may worry about durability, but I think the move from sheet metal to polymer was a step up.
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If they used a quality polimer I would agree. But when I had the rifle break as I was shooting it not taking it down. It makes me wonder. Heck even the fact that a $500 rifle could be broken by not taking great care in disassemply causes some concern. They should have reinforced this area with metal. Armalite has had a lot of quality control issues lately. Their fourm on AR15.com is more of a how do i get my AR10 running right trouble shooting fourm than anything else. I had a trigger problem. Others I know had feeding issues. To be fair the problems were fixed in their cases after a trip or two to Armalite. Mine was fixed after two trips I gave up on them and bought a quality trigger from KAC. A buyer has the right to expect not to be the company's beta testers on a $2000+ rifle or even on a $500 rifle.

Pat

 

[Mannlicher]

.357Sig replys:Well if your just a plinker thats fine. If you own the rifle for serious work then a light is mandatory, Optics are a great help. As for the folding stock I can take or leave them.
Pat


While I see you call yourself a fire arms instructor, I think that statement is just a tad arrogant. You dont know what my level of skill is, or my experience. Teach school to the bozos that pay ya, and don't be so quick to judge those you don't know.
sam

 

[355sigfan]

While I see you call yourself a fire arms instructor, I think that statement is just a tad arrogant. You dont know what my level of skill is, or my experience. Teach school to the bozos that pay ya, and don't be so quick to judge those you don't know.
sam
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With any respect I can muster after that reply. No matter what your level of skill or experience is my statement is still true. I never did judge you. But you apparently judged me and those that pay me.
Pat

 

[jacketch]

While I see you call yourself a fire arms instructor, I think that statement is just a tad arrogant. You dont know what my level of skill is, or my experience. Teach school to the bozos that pay ya, and don't be so quick to judge those you don't know.

355sigfan Unless you can explain what encompasses a "rifle for serious work" and how you know someone's use or their weapon doesn't qualify, I would have to agree with the above.

According to some peoples dogma, if you don't have nukes, everythings just plinking

 

[355sigfan]

Well I figured we were all intelligent people. Serious work would mean something involving defending yourself or others lives. Ie home defense or other self defense situations where you can have a long gun available. In these situations we know based on crime statistics that 83% of criminal attacks are at night in the dark. As homeowners and people we need to identify our target as a threat before we shoot. Hence a light is mandatory. A weapon mounted light is far easier to use with a longgun than a handheld unit. Hence why its essential. Quality optics make it easier to shoot fast and accurately in all light conditions. Hence their strong recomendation. A lot of old timers poo poo things they don't understand. A lot of young shooters buy all the gadgets they can. The best approach is in the middle. Some items are almost essential.
Pat

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

Well if your just a plinker thats fine. If you own the rifle for serious work then a light is mandatory, Optics are a great help.

^---- this is truth.

 

[jacketch]

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[Chindo18Z]

Reference "Serious Use": As recently as just 3-4 years ago, optics were not general issue to the conventional 11B/11H community. There has since been a revolution in military affairs when it comes to riflemen.

As with all good ideas and desireable equipment, the dominant factors in fielding plans are money and priority. Smart units w/ money get theirs first (i.e., USSOCOM units), then other units slated to rotate to the nearest live-fire event, and finally everyone else.

ALMOST EVERYONE in U.S. combat arms is going to widgets. They work. We fight at night. Whether Red Dot, IR Lasers, White Tac Lights, Thermals, or GEN III NODs. When you see troops without, you are looking at units waiting for their turn at the procurement nipple...

The original F-86 was a gun-equipped fighter. The later versions had the guns AND the radar AND the air-to-air missiles. Don't limit yourself...

The AR-180B (like all modern combat rifles) needs a built in rail on top of the receiver. Armalite...Are you listening?