S&w 460 xvr

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Just bought a used s&w 460 xvr.:D:):D:)

I was starting to feel my testerone level dropping so i really needed something to boost it back up.:p

problem solved. this thing is huge!!! i got a box of 45, 454, 460 and went by the farm to declair war on the creek, ooooober fun.

didnt have time to do any real sighting in but at 50 paces ( +/- 100 ft. ) i was staying in a 6 inch group.:cool:

the kick wasnt near as bad as i antisapated, my buddies snub 44 is worse i think.:what:

i plan to hunt bambi with it this year. cant wait as i have been using a 357 and comparitively it is a bb gun. had to get a bandolier holster as there is no way in ell i could carry this thing on my hip all day.close to 5 lb.:eek:

any one have any advice / experience with this manley man club gun?
 
wear double ear protection and enjoy. I use my on the rifle range and the noise upsets the people around it. Our handgun range is only 50 yds.
 
just wondering... is the action tight on your gun... i picked up a new 460 pc hunter at the local gun shop... it was very loose for a new gun... he had 2 of them.. both did not lock up tight like some of my other smiths
 
enjoy.....the .460 really shines when you reload for it. Altho I don't double-up my hearing protection, I do wear electronic ear muffs when I'm hunting with mine.
 
just wondering... is the action tight on your gun... i picked up a new 460 pc hunter at the local gun shop
Mines still tight.

The PC were recalled because of barrel failure. Contact S&W to make sure that yours was fixed.
Smith & Wesson 460 Recall

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If you have a Performance Center .460 S&W Magnum, in the serial number ranges below, you should probably send it in to Smith & Wesson to get them to check and, if necessary, replace the barrel. They've had a few incidents of the barrels coming off when the gun was fired.

EBD0001 to EBD0524
EBF0002 to EBF0251
LHZ0000 to LHZ0511
LLL0000 to LLL0702
LRR0001 to LRR0552
MMM0001 to MMM1809
XMC0001 to XMC0109
 
my action is pretty tight. i can move it slightly but thats all.
mines just the 460 magnum xvr.

any sugestions on a scope? never had a scope on a handgun before and it will definately need to be able to take a beating.
 
Leupold VX3 2.5-8X32 is what I'm using. Be prepared for sticker shock.
 
Leupold VX3 2.5-8X32 would be my choice, but if you don't want to spend that much money, the Bushnell 2X6X32 will work just as well. I had one on my S&W 460 Mag, then it went on my 500 Mag and it is still holding up.
 
Definitely wear double hearing protection. Very good choice though for versatility. Hell of a fun shooter.

One thing that may be worth noting is that I found the sights to be different for .45LC, and .454 Casull. If I remember correctly (this was shooting my cousin's gun last summer) the .45LC shot really high, the .454 a bit high, and the .460 was dead on. If you haven't done so yet get a tall target, then try loading .45lc, .454 casull, and .460 all in a row. You should see what I mean on the target when you do.
 
Forget shooting the 454 Casull's and 45 Colts in your S&W 460 Mag, you don't buy a S&W 460 Mag to shoot light loads.

I never understood why anyone wants to do that. The only reason you buy a big gun is to shoot big loads.
 
I always kind of thought that it was nice to have the option. You find a box of .45LC at a garage sale, you can have some fun plinking.

Plus, loading all 3 in a row is a great illustration of the evolution of cartridges.
 
Forget shooting the 454 Casull's and 45 Colts in your S&W 460 Mag, you don't buy a S&W 460 Mag to shoot light loads.

I never understood why anyone wants to do that. The only reason you buy a big gun is to shoot big loads.


......what I found was that .45Colt and .454 loads printed so much differently that they weren't worth the effort to shoot unless you were gonna shoot a bunch of them and readjusted the sights. Reloading your own makes the cost savings of shooting the lesser calibers moot and you can find a reduced load that's pleasant to shoot and still prints close enough to leave the sights alone.
 
Forget shooting the 454 Casull's and 45 Colts in your S&W 460 Mag, you don't buy a S&W 460 Mag to shoot light loads.

When did a .454 Casull become a light load? I realize that a .460 Mag is based on the 454.
 
used my electronic muffs and they worked fine.
the three cals. did track up but stayed within 6 in. total at aprox. 100 ft. so i can shoot any without adjustment once i become familiar with it at diff ranges.

cat and 460 is probably the only real uses for me as i have a 45. the 45 felt like a .25 auto out of that cannon anyway. way to heavy to use as a 45 for me.

i was looking for a 454 for a long time but couldnt find a used one i liked then happened on the 460 at a very nice price so home it came.:D
 
Forget shooting the 454 Casull's and 45 Colts in your S&W 460 Mag, you don't buy a S&W 460 Mag to shoot light loads.

I never understood why anyone wants to do that. The only reason you buy a big gun is to shoot big loads.

I am resurrecting this thread from the dead, because it caught my interest and I didn't want to start a new topic as of yet.

Let me ask my question with respect to this post. Why would there be any objections to using a S&W 460 XVR for shooting .454 casull as the main load? I was told .454 is quite pleasant to shoot out of this gun because of the heavy frame and ported barrel, as well as the .454 can be loaded quite hot and be a very powerful and effective round in its own right.

I am considering getting a .454 and since S&W does not make a revolver chambered specifically for .454 Casull, the .460 XVR seems like a good option, perhaps better than the Ruger Super Redhawk.

Can anyone give me their opinions of using the S&W 460 as a gun that is primarily used for shooting .454? The reason I think this gun may serve a good purpose for shooting .454 over the Redhawk is I hear the recoil is less and manageability of shooting .454 is much better out of the X-Frame S&W gun. What are other people's opinions about this?

I also like the idea of loading hot 45LC's for black bear defense in most of the lower 48 and being able to switch to more powerful .454 or .460 rounds if I go to areas with grizzlies like Montana or Alaska. How hard is it to adjust the sites to compensate for different loads? I hardly doubt I'd ever shoot multiple calibers in one day, but thought the S&W 460 had a lot of advantages and versatility due to the ability to shoot a variety of different calibers through the gun.
 
The advantages of the versatility of this gun is what attracted me to it in the first place. Standard .45 Colt for home defense, +P Colts for deer and the like, .454 Casull for mule deer, hoggs if you live in their territory, or black bear protection, and the big 460's for elk, moose, and griz protection. There is also the added cost savings from being able to shoot cowboy loads. IMO there are a huge number of benefits to the variable things you can do with a 460. 460V 5"bbl, I'm pretty sure it's the most versatile gun I will ever own.
 
Would you say the 460 5" barrel is concealable with a chest holster? I have one made for my 4" S&W 629 44 mag and it seems to work fine. How much does the 5" barrel weigh? I cannot find any stats about the 5" barrel on S&W's website, all the information points to the larger barreled version.
 
I know a few guys that use 454 Casull's in their S&W 460 Mag and love it. The reason I got into the S&W 460 Mag was due to the long range shooting with handguns I was doing. Use what ever you want in your S&W 460 Mag, my statement was because I bought my S&W 460 Mag to shoot the S&W 460 Mag. I have smaller, and a lot easier to carry guns in 45 Colt and 454 Casull.
 
Redhawk1, what kind of accuracy have you been able to get from the 460? I have been contemplating the 460 since it came out but have always wandered if the accuracy I read about the gun is true?
 
I did a lot of work on loads in my S&W 460 Mag's. I was consistently hitting a 4 inch clay target at 150 yards with a 240 and 260 gr. bullet. I was getting 1 inch groups at 100 yards with the same load of the bench on a good rest, using a Leupold 2.5X8 power scope.

The gun is very accurate, I did find what worked best in my guns and stuck with them.
 
Evergreen, personally I wouldn’t try to conceal this gun. If you’ve not handled an X frame before, than you should before considering the purchase. That being said, I see you have a 629, so I’m assuming you are aware that the X frame is noticeably larger. A chest rig would be a good way to carry the 460V, though I use a Desantes hip holster.

The reason you can’t find any info on S&W’s website is that they don’t make the 460V model anymore. You can still find them on Gunbroker and other gun selling websites, usually for $1000+ dollars. They are getting harder to find. The gun weighs in at 60 oz. empty, so just a little under 4 lbs. Load her up with full power 460’s rounds and you’ll probably be over 4 lbs due to the weight of the bullets and cartridges overall.

I was originally looking at the Ruger Super Redhawk in .454 with the 7.5” bbl (which is fine revolver). However, when I looked at the 460V, I found it more aesthetically pleasing to the eye (IMHO), I liked the added versatility of being able to shoot the 460 rounds, and the balance of the gun is fantastic. Keep in mind you get 5 shots in a 460 not 6 like in the Super Redhawk. This was not a concern to me since if you haven’t killed or scared away what ever you are shooting at with 5 rounds of 460, is having 6 rounds of .454 any better. Also, be aware that the 460 round was originally designed for a 8 3/8ths” barrel, I believe. So in the 5” version you will lose a bit of velocity, power, and accuracy if you are shooting longer distance. I shoot iron sights only, so I pretty much never shoot over 100 yards. At that distance, the gun is capable of shooting better than I.

To me the 460V fell into the “perfect gun for me” category. It is the perfect balance of being a great short range hunting revolver (longer if scoped), it is a great trail gun for dangerous critters, the balance is perfect (not nose heavy at all), I shoot it accurately with one or both hands, and I think it is gorgeous. It’s like the 460V was designed specifically for me. There is also the fun factor of having a huge hand cannon on your hip. Now keep in mind, I’m a large fella (6’3”, 210 lbs.), so this gun works good for me. I assume if you are concealing a 629, you are a big guy too, so this gun may work wonders for you.

Unfortunately, the “perfect gun” category only ever applies to certain people. The short barreled version is better for packing in dangerous animal areas due to the lighter weight, and the 8” and longer bbl versions are better for hunting, thus sales of the 460V were likely depressed. I consider this most unfortunate. I am actually thinking of buying a second one, since like I said, this gun is perfect for me.

Adjusting for different loads, 45, 45+p, 454, and 460 is easy since all you are really doing is adding more gas to the loads by stepping it up (bullet weights will also obviously play a part). Elevation is mostly what you need to worry about. Now if you are going to load it with different cartridges in the same cylinder full, that may get a bit more challenging. Put her on a rest or a sandbag, bring a note book, and start out on the 460, since the gun seems sighted in for that when it comes from the factory, and figure how many clicks you need to adjust for different loads.

I agree with Redhawk1 on the accuracy. I have found it to be extremely accurate for a handgun, and that’s just been with factory loads. I plan to get into hand loading in the not to distant future, and I can’t wait to start tweaking this loading for fun. I really want to try out some Belt Mountain Punch bullets in a 460 loading. That should stop a Buick if need be!
 
THanks for the informative post Kodiak. Well, I am a reasonably big guy (5,9" and 270lbs) and have strong hands. I'm not a lardo, despite my weight, so hiking up the mountains with a 5lb gun is not a big deal for me either. I like the chest holster as it balances the weight and I Can still carry another sidearm ( like a 9mm) on my hip.

I was blasting off rounds of the Ruger Alaskan 454 2.5" bbl without any problems. People commended me on how I handled the recoil. Actually, I felt the kick was worse on my S&W 629 with 4" barrel because of the lack of padding on the grip that the S&W 629 has compared to the thicker and longer grip of the Ruger. I assume the S&W 460 has a much thicker grip like the Super Redhawk.

Some have told me that small Ruger has more recoil than the S&W 460 due to the fact the 460 has a longer barrel, thicker frame and a compensator. Actually, that was one of the selling points to me about the S&W 460. I thought it be nice to shoot .454 out of a gun that has less recoil and more versatility. Perhaps, once I get a good with the .454 and hopefully start reloading, I could make my way up to shooting the .460s. Another benefit, is that if I am in black bear country, a hot 45LC would probably be all I would need and it would shoot like a kitten out of that big gun. My 44s do kick quite a bit out of that lighter N-frame 629.

I am sad to hear that they no longer make the 5" barrel 460s. SO does that mean there is no way to acquire a new S&W 460 with less than a 7+" barrel? Obviously, if it will be my carry gun in the woods, it would be impractical to conceal anything less than a 5" barrel. Even 5" is pushing it, I would prefer a 4" barrel. I think under 4" barrel, it is not useful, as you lose accuracy and velocity, which is one of the reasons I would use such a powerful round.
 
I am guessing that the recoil on the 460V is lighter than on the Alaskan for all the reasons you stated, though I have never shot the Alaskan. The logic you are using makes perfect sense. I have shot a lot of Hornady .454's out of this gun, and they are a breeze.

The grip is a Houge (I think) mono grip with a decelerator pad right where the web of your hand touches. It is thick, and squishy, and does wonders for the recoil. The grip is also the same size as the N frame grips I believe, so if you like the feel of the 629, the 460V will fit you well.

These guns are getting harder to find new, but there are a few on Gunbroker right now if you have the coin available to buy one. Just type in 460V in the search box, and I think there are like 4 available. One of them is very lightly used. It looks NIB but the seller says it has about 10 rounds through it. I am guessing you will agree that it is a better looking gun than the Alaskan, but that's just MO, and it has nothing to do with the performance. I do think the Alaskan has a rather unique and destinctly attractive look to it.

I picked up some Buffalo Bore heavy +P .45 colt JHP's a while back. The advertised speed is about 1400 fps and 1200 ft. lbs, though I'm not sure what length barrel was used to chrono those speeds. I know that hard cast bullets are better for dangerous animals, but I'm guessing these are plenty for a black bear (like a .44 mag). Corbon also makes some solid copper +P .45 Colts. Those generate about 700 ftlbs of energy. Those hardly kick at all in this 4 lb gun and follow up shots would be easy. I reserve those for mountain lions. I keep it in my living room (I do the stash guns around my home in case of a home invassion thing(I keep a .357 on the night stand)) loaded with Hornady's .45 Colt Critical Defense cartridges (probably about 450 ftlbs out a 5" bbl). I used to load it with +P's, but moved back into town and into a neighborhood, so I became concerned about blasting through 1 or more walls if I missed an intruder in my home.

The trigger pull in DA is really smooth which makes follow up shots in a dangerous animal encounter more accurate. The trigger pull is extremely light in SA so don't let it surprise you. Since the 460 was meant as a hunting revolver, I'm guessing the hair trigger is to eliminate or reduce flinching. Also, 5 Star Speed Loaders makes speed loaders and pouches for X frames. I don't know how usefull speed loaders would be for a 460, but it's something to think about.
 
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