S&w 638?

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I'm considering one of these for a new EDC gun(local shop has a like NIB one for $300 OTD) and am a bit concerned about the lock engaging itself. I know that the lock subject has been beaten to death but I'm simply wondering if any 638 owners have personally had any issues with their gun's locks? S&W has already released no lock versions of the 642,442 and M37 is there any chance that a no lock 638 is right around the corner?

It just seems like so many people here and on other forums have these little smiths as their carry guns and that the lock just doesn't make them lose any sleep,so am I just reading to much into it and simply being paranoid about the whole lock thing? Yes I've read about lock failures on other models but never with the model 638 for some reason. Should I just buy the gun and enjoy,in your opinions would I like it as an EDC gun?
 
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Hello, well the lock bother me some didn't think about it when I first went back to the snub about 18 months ago but after reading S&W fourm I began to worry about it. when the new 642-1 were release I was going to get one but what they wanted to give me in trade was a joke. My 642 now have about 1600 rounds about 25% +p it is still tight and has not locked up. You can do what i have done I deleted the S&W fourm I keep in mind that a weapon can failed for many reason I carry my 642 every day as the snub nose is really a great always gun. Get the 638 turn the lock and listen for the click this will tell you the lock is working as it should unlock it put the key away and enjoy your new best friend.

be safe
 
I think current production S&W's are some of the tightest, highest quality guns S&W has made.

However, I know first hand the lock can engage by itself. As such, my only "lock" gun suffered a freak incident at some point in which the nub that locks the hammer was mysteriously shaved off. Some day I need to have S&W fix that.
 
I wish my 638 didn't have a lock but it does and in around 600+ rounds on this one and 500 on the one I had to sell before I left for OK I've never had a single issue, lock related or otherwise, and like Deercop said, the weapon has incredible fit and finish.

And $300 OTD? Smokin' deal!
 
The lock removal is aout a 10 or 15 minute job for someone with good hands on skills, but with out ever having a S&W apart. I have removed several and the bigger the gun the easier it is to remove just due to part size. I have not removed the 610-3 lock as yet since it is only a range gun and not even compatition at that.

My 642-2 which is a CCW piece and used fairly often, I removed the lock (J frames are easiest to do) and used clear Scotch to cover hole and keep pocket dirt & lint out of the gun. The 642 can not be risked failing so I removed it without risking a possible failure.

The 647 I sold did have a lock failure before even firing the gun, so I removed the lock. It was a PIA because it was very small, even smaller then a J frame for some reason.
 
I am hoping that S&W will release a no-lock 638 as well. However, I will not buy one with a lock.

While I wait for the 638, I went ahead and bought a no-lock 642. My advice is for you to do the same.

WJR
 
i ccw a 642 with lock. it doesn't worry me too much. you can always disable the lock if it is a concern or shop around for one without. as far as i know, there is no fix for the ugly hole though.

it sounds like this really bothers you. otherwise you probably would not have posted. so my opinion to you would be to look around and find yourself a nice pre lock 638 or look into a new 642 that does not have the lock. that might be the ticket for you.

good luck, and let us know what you get.
 
when I was younger & stupid, I used to sell my snubbies when finances got tight; wth that said, I have owned & shot several Smitty snubbies (642, 442, 637) all equipped with locks; several thousand rounds combined without a single failure or inadvertent lockup; my current 642, my dad's 642, my 629 and his 686 all have locks & no problems to report :cool:
 
I was carrying a M638 with the lock until S&W released those 4000 M642 no-lock guns last month. I now carry a no-lock M642 even though I would rather carry a M638.

You will have to decide for yourself if you think the lock is dangerous or not. Many will tell you it's silly to worry about the lock while many will tell you the opposite. Like I said, you will have to decide for yourself. I won't carry a SD weapon with the ILS so I guess that makes me one of the silly ones.
 
Never had a problem with the lock unexpectedly engaging. I have shot close to 1000 rounds in my 638. I would definitely buy it again, if i had to do it over. However, before purchasing the 638, there are even lighter .357 snubbies by S&W. I would go with those first. You always have the option of shooting .38 on them and they are good for CCW. The 638 are good inside jackets pockets....but I need something lighter during the summer.
 
I will have to disagree with the suggestion of buying a Airlite .357 Magnum. They weigh only 12oz and are hell to shoot with full powder Magnum rounds. EVERYONE I know who bought one carries and shoots only .38 Special +P rounds in it. The Airlite costs almost twice what the Airweight does and since you end up shooting 38's anyway why spend the extra money? The Airwight weighs only 15oz, that's really not heavy at all and I really see no need for a 12oz revolver over a 15oz revolver. I carry a 15oz Airweight all day long in my front pocket and truly forget it's there. (carry ammo is the Remington FBI Load, Part #R38S12)
 
Lock? What lock?

I just don't look at it.

It's like doing a.... and don't look at the....until you....

Then go home unloaded.

I'd get it. that's reasonable.
 
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Archangel has a point. i do love shooting the 638. no problems with recoils at all. it feels like an extension of my hand. love that gun. because of my unique situation, even the 638 is too big for CCW. (that may not be the case for you.) I am considering purchasing a lighter .38 or .357 for general CCW carry. (I agree with Archangel....i too, wouldn't choose to do a lot of shooting with the .357 snubbie. but perhaps may opt for using it as my carry gun... )
 
Wasting time, got me again.

Looks like megatronrules is active on this board, but has not responded to the thread he started, so, I assume he's just stroking us.
 
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Elvishead I've no idea what your comment is supposed to mean,I have been reading and appreciate all of the replies to my thread. sir I can assure my intent is to stroke no one in any way,I'm simply wanting info on a gun I'm considering buying.

I have to say it appears the lock problem isn't really an issue on the airweght .38's and that the lock is no more likely to cause a failure then any other part in the gun if it were to fail. Again I feel the simple fact I haven't replied to my own thread doesn't mean I'm "stroking" anyone. Thanks to everyone for their info and help I'm going to my dealer this week to order my new 638.
 
The 638 has been added to my list if J-frames I'd like to own.

I happen to like the Bodyguard design. I have an older 649 (all stainless) .38 Spl which is the only all-steel J-frame I still own. While the significant majority of my training & practice is done double action, I do take advantage of the single action capability of the 649 to practice longer distance 'precision' shots, reinforcing my SA trigger control in addition to my DA trigger control skills.

Since I prefer to carry an Airweight, though, it makes sense to me to add the Airweight version of the Bodyguard model to my working collection. ;) Someday, any way.

In the mean time I now have a couple of 642-1's. I picked up a second one when S&W serial numbered their old stock of 642-1 frames and released them to RSR as new production guns. I have one of those 37-2's from the previously canceled overseas order, and also I picked up one of the M&P 340 Centennials when they were first released.

As you can tell I tend to favor the lightweight models, but not too light. I don't personally care for titanium cylinders, so I don't own any of the Airlites.

Also, even though the M&P 340 is chambered in .357 Magnum, I only use Magnum ammunition when I train and qualify with it, in addition to .38 Spl ... but carry .38 Spl +P ammunition in it.

I have to agree with ArchAngelCD on this point. I see no need to decrease my controllability by using Magnum loads in the lightweight 5-shot guns. I like the recoil management, fast follow-up and accuracy I can wring from the Airweights when using +P ammunition ... so that's what I use for my daily activities.

If I want to carry a Magnum 5-shot revolver I'll take the SP-101 DAO out of the safe and carry it. Although is sees range training & practice, I don't often carry it because it's just heavy enough for me to need to consider it a belt gun, instead of a pocket carry gun. It's been handy for those times I've been off the beaten path and still wanted to carry a heavier bullet weight Magnum load for backwoods carry, though. Lighter and easier to carry than my Ruger Service-Six Heavy Barrel. Still just a short-barreled, medium-bore handgun, but that's generally fine for my perceived needs where I wander off the asphalt ...

Back to the J-frames, though.

I've had the inclination to pick up one of the new M40's, probably in nickel, in recent months. That might happen before I look for a 638. I wouldn't mind adding another all-steel J-frame to my collection. After doing a lot of training & practicing with any Airweight, shooting an all-steel model seems even more controllable. ;)

Luck to you with your new 638.

I'd offer the thought that the diminutive, lightweight, short-barreled revolvers generally require more of the user than a standard size revolver, though. Not everyone has the foundation of DA revolver skills to use them to best advantage, or to their own satisfaction, for that matter.
 
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