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I have heard not sure its true but that Rugers is cast and Smiths is forged
Lay the GP 100 (better yet the Match Champion version) and a 686 side by side in front of you. Point, operate the trigger, and just close your eyes and run your hand over both. One will speak to you and that is what you should buy and never look back.
Oh, I think the way to go is to plan on owning both. It's just a question of which comes first. I say that because I would be really torn about which one to give up.+100 Or better yet, if you can rent or borrow, shoot them.
Either way, get the one that "calls" to you. You won't regret either.
Oh, I think the way to go is to plan on owning both. It's just a question of which comes first. I say that because I would be really torn about which one to give up.
I am curious about what one might call a "lock flag" that is visible on an assembled gun. Looking at the bag of ILS parts removed from my Smiths, I don't see an item I would call a flag or that would be visible without taking the gun apart. Personally, I would send the gun in to be checked out. From my experience, it won't likely be gone long and should not cost anything.I really like my new 586 and really hate the lock.
It has maybe 300 rounds through it, all but a few were 38's.
A few days ago I was down to the last two reloads in my pocket. I chambered them and the cylinder would not close. I examined the reloads for raised primers or some other defect and found none.
I re chambered the rounds and the cylinder closed but felt different. Tried to pull the hammer back and it was locked. Messed with the gun a little and noticed a rattle and the lock flag sticking up a little. I should mention I had never locked the gun or even taken the key out of the box.
I pushed the lock tab down with my finger and was able to pull the hammer back and fire the rounds. Neither the hammer or the trigger felt right. After repeatedly dry firing both single and double action it returned to what feels normal.
It has not done this since then but obviously there is something wrong. Something broke, a loose metal shaving? I will shoot more to see if it reoccurs and either send it in of take it apart.
The moral of the story is, I would never trust a Smith with a lock for a self defense gun.
I see. Seems like "flag" is a good name for it. Thanks for the picture.I'm sure "flag' isn't the correct name for the part. It say's "locked" and pops up beside the hammer when you lock it.View attachment 231256
Barrel length? Six shot, seven shot?Well I went today and ordered my S&W 686 357 stainless
When the Security Six bears a concealable grip it can be quite punishing with serious 357 ammo, while that is no problem for a comparable GP100, in my estimation. I own both and reload something a notch lighter for the Security Six, which has a grip frame designed for open carry. The GP100 can use the compact grip to avoid poking out as much under a shirt, but as mostly a range gun, the 5" GP uses the full sized rubber grip with fancy inserts.There's no comparison between Ruger and S&W these days. Ruger's GP-100 models are boat anchors in my view. They whacked off some steel from the grip, added it to the barrel and ruined the balance of the guns. The SP-101s are fine, and some people can get used to the balance of a bad gun just like they can get used to the balance of a bad knife. The 686s are just heavy, but their balance is fine. I just wish one could opt for lighter guns. The old Model 66 is ideal (if you can get one of the new release models). And if you can find an old Security-Six Ruger, you're always going to be better off than with a GP-100. What happens is they beefed up a gun that didn't need to be beefed up. Some people say, "Well, there's less recoil." Yes, so let's add another eight ounces and reduce it even more! No one ever complained that the old 66 and Security-Sixes were too light. They said the 66/19s were not durable.
Many people hike, hunt, fish and camp, and they don't want the extra weight in guns that only shine at the range.
Wise choice, odds are, you won't be disappointed.Well I went today and ordered my S&W 686 357 stainless